Posted on 12/31/2012 3:51:31 PM PST by virgil283
"These days, there are few few things to admire about the socialist, bankrupt and culturally degenerating USA, but at least so far, one thing remains: the right to bare arms and use deadly force to defend one’s self and possessions......who themselves grew up and came from the same culture?
No it is about power and a total power over the people. There is a lot of desire to bad mouth the Tsar, particularly by the Communists, who claim he was a tyrant, and yet under him we were armed and under the progressives disarmed. Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step of their ideology. They hate guns in the hands of those who think for themselves and do not obey without question. They hate guns in those whom they have slated for a barrel to the back of the ear. So, do not fall for the false promises and do not extinguish the light that is left to allow humanity a measure of self respect.
(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...
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That has got to hurt real bad, being impugned by Pravda as “socialist”.
I’m rooting for Pravda and hating on our commie preezy.
It seems like yesterday that Reagan and Thatcher walked the earth.
No Communists left in Russia, except for a few fools.
Everyone else refers to it as "the Soviet mistake".
The Russian people are not fools. They all know where the tiny little group of frozen faced radicals who called themselves the "Big Party" (Bolshevikii) got their power: at the point of a gun.
They'd like to be able to prevent that from happening again.
Don't know that they can. Like other people, they confront a government with massive firepower, and no interest in sharing it.
But it is a bit surprising. You can buy a nice semi-auto Saiga in some of the shops in Moscow, along with lots of other fun stuff. Don't know if you have to register it, suspect that like everything in Moscow, you could just pay the cop to look the other way....
I's sure like to see a reference that ordinary people were allowed to keep and bear arms under the Tsarist regime. I very much doubt it.
My understanding is that this was one of the primary privileges of the Cossacks. They were given the privilege of bearing arms because it was assumed they'd be loyal to the Tsar, partly because of this privilege.
Also, by definition the Tsar was an autocrat. I suppose it's possible to be an autocrat but not a tyrant, but it's been accomplished only rarely. It is, however, true that the commies were much worse by almost any standard you care to use.
One definition of tyrant is ‘self made ruler’. The Tsar didn’t make himself, nor did he take power that was not his by tradition.
By contrast, Obama seems to be doing executive orders to add more power to himself.
The Tsar was also head of state of Finland, but that state was not ruled by the Tsar as an autocrat. When the Tsar was murdered, Finland changed their constitution to select a head of state in another way.
This will probably come as a total shock to most of my Western readers, but at one point, Russia was one of the most heavily armed societies on earth. This was, of course, when we were free under the Tsar. Weapons, from swords and spears to pistols, rifles and shotguns were everywhere, common items. People carried them concealed, they carried them holstered. Fighting knives were a prominent part of many traditional attires and those little tubes criss crossing on the costumes of Cossacks and various Caucasian peoples? Well those are bullet holders for rifles.
Various armies, such as the Poles, during the Смута (Times of Troubles), or Napoleon, or the Germans even as the Tsarist state collapsed under the weight of WW1 and Wall Street monies, found that holding Russian lands was much much harder than taking them and taking was no easy walk in the park but a blood bath all its own. In holding, one faced an extremely well armed and aggressive population Hell bent on exterminating or driving out the aggressor.
This well armed population was what allowed the various White factions to rise up, no matter how disorganized politically and militarily they were in 1918 and wage a savage civil war against the Reds. It should be noted that many of these armies were armed peasants, villagers, farmers and merchants, protecting their own. If it had not been for Washington's clandestine support of and for the Reds, history would have gone quite differently.
Moscow fell, for example, not from a lack of weapons to defend it, but from the lieing guile of the Reds. Ten thousand Reds took Moscow and were opposed only by some few hundreds of officer cadets and their instructors. Even then the battle was fierce and losses high. However, in the city alone, at that time, lived over 30,000 military officers (both active and retired), all with their own issued weapons and ammunition, plus tens of thousands of other citizens who were armed. The Soviets promised to leave them all alone if they did not intervene. They did not and for that were asked afterwards to come register themselves and their weapons: where they were promptly shot.
Of course being savages, murderers and liars does not mean being stupid and the Reds learned from their Civil War experience. One of the first things they did was to disarm the population. From that point, mass repression, mass arrests, mass deportations, mass murder, mass starvation were all a safe game for the powers that were. The worst they had to fear was a pitchfork in the guts or a knife in the back or the occasional hunting rifle. Not much for soldiers.
To this day, with the Soviet Union now dead 21 years, with a whole generation born and raised to adulthood without the SU, we are still denied our basic and traditional rights to self defense. Why? We are told that everyone would just start shooting each other and crime would be everywhere....but criminals are still armed and still murdering and to often, especially in the far regions, those criminals wear the uniforms of the police. The fact that everyone would start shooting is also laughable when statistics are examined.
While President Putin pushes through reforms, the local authorities, especially in our vast hinterland, do not feel they need to act like they work for the people. They do as they please, a tyrannical class who knows they have absolutely nothing to fear from a relatively unarmed population. This in turn breeds not respect but absolute contempt and often enough, criminal abuse.
For those of us fighting for our traditional rights, the US 2nd Amendment is a rare light in an ever darkening room. Governments will use the excuse of trying to protect the people from maniacs and crime, but are in reality, it is the bureaucrats protecting their power and position. In all cases where guns are banned, gun crime continues and often increases. As for maniacs, be it nuts with cars (NYC, Chapel Hill NC), swords (Japan), knives (China) or home made bombs (everywhere), insane people strike. They throw acid (Pakistan, UK), they throw fire bombs (France), they attack. What is worse, is, that the best way to stop a maniac is not psychology or jail or "talking to them", it is a bullet in the head, that is why they are a maniac, because they are incapable of living in reality or stopping themselves.
The excuse that people will start shooting each other is also plain and silly. So it is our politicians saying that our society is full of incapable adolescents who can never be trusted? Then, please explain how we can trust them or the police, who themselves grew up and came from the same culture?
No it is about power and a total power over the people. There is a lot of desire to bad mouth the Tsar, particularly by the Communists, who claim he was a tyrant, and yet under him we were armed and under the progressives disarmed. Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step of their ideology. They hate guns in the hands of those who think for themselves and do not obey without question. They hate guns in those whom they have slated for a barrel to the back of the ear.
So, do not fall for the false promises and do not extinguish the light that is left to allow humanity a measure of self respect.
Stanislav Mishin
The tsar was a king essentially
Have all kings been tyrants then?
Historically that term was reserved for especially unjust kings not monarchs in general
Autocratic rulers.....kings......tsars...etc who ruled for self at an excessive expense of his subjects
That is a tyrant...and Nicholas was not
Wow...Pravada more conservative and supporting freedom than the New York Times.....By a lot....
I’ve now seen everything....
Russians don’t want to see the next caliphate - especially in Moscow. As long as our government prosecutes a war with the muslim brotherhood against pro christian governments, Russia has cause to take aim at our cities and military. Get Ready.
Of course, you're gliding over a revolution or two and a civil war that was part of the process.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War
Did anyone notice this link in one of the comments?
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005
Some pretty frightening stuff, if true. I can’t recall seeing it here on FR.
Stanislav has a blog link at the bottom of the Pravda article, and in it he has a few phrases that lift a red flag for me (pardon the pun), but while he spouts the class warfare propaganda, his history seems pretty solid.
I got down to May 12, 2007 and found he predicted Putin's invasion and punishment of Georgia in August 2008.
Putin's strategy was unpublished until March 2008, so this guy has a great deal of knowledge about things Russian.
Likewise, it appears to me that Pravda is the clear choice over the American MSM.
It could work out that the gun grabbing will occur during an economic collapse. Political and military instability feed off each other, and the Federal government will have one hell of a time controlling welfare mobs and chasing down rebels when the Treasury runs dry.
In this scenario, the federal government would be vulnerable. The Feds Achilles heels include lack of real money, communication, and fidelity to the 0bama regime. If rebels recruit some talented hackers to disrupt the IRS, financial markets, some ex-military to disrupt communications, and some intelligence insiders to undermine the command structure, an overthrow would be possible.
These are truly confusing times when the old mouth piece of the Soviet regime makes more sense than many of our elected officials.
No matter, we will persevere.
Lost me there.
Washington had troops in Russia for several years during and after the war, mostly fighting the Reds.
Did Washington miss an opportunity for preventing much of the suffering of the 20th century by aggressively moving against the Reds? Sure.
But it's pure nonsense to claim we supported them.
I had to smack myself, is Pravda more conservative than many of our media companies like PMS-NBC, cBS ?
Today, I trust Pravda to get the truth out much more than the mainstream media. The media have become the enemy of the American People.
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