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To: ksen
Trickle down is the norm and part of the cycle of capitalism. Unfortunately, these aren't normal times and we aren't really a capitalist, producer nation/economy any longer.

Instead, we have become a government economy of consumers that produces debt, exports natural resources and consumes goods and services other nations produce for us.

Politicians and the Fed have gamed the system and so altered the national landscape that trickle down now comes as pain: that which flows from taxes and regulations and government's politically determined distribution, rather than that which comes via natural market forces.

2 posted on 12/31/2012 8:38:58 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA
Trickle down is the norm and part of the cycle of capitalism.

Nonsense. NONSENSE! How do you think "it" gets up there to trickle down in the first place?

5 posted on 12/31/2012 8:52:45 AM PST by DManA
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To: GBA
Trickle down is the norm and part of the cycle of capitalism.

citation needed

Unfortunately, these aren't normal times and we aren't really a capitalist, producer nation/economy any longer.

Sure we are. America is still the number one (maybe number 2) manufacturer in the world.

Instead, we have become a government economy of consumers that produces debt, exports natural resources and consumes goods and services other nations produce for us.

Consumers always drive job creation. No consumers, no business. So the way to solve the problem is to enact policies that help put cash in the hands of those most likely to spend it, i.e. the lower 80%. It doesn't have to be done through a raw exercise in government power.

Politicians and the Fed have gamed the system and so altered the national landscape that trickle down now comes as pain: that which flows from taxes and regulations and government's politically determined distribution, rather than that which comes via natural market forces.

What are these "natural market forces" you are talking about?

11 posted on 12/31/2012 9:10:59 AM PST by ksen
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