Posted on 12/22/2012 7:48:24 PM PST by DBrow
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl20.xls
2010 FBI Crime Stats. Interesting stuff. The total number of murders in 2010 was 12,996, it's usually reported as that many firearm murders. The actual number of firearm murder is 8,775 (and the antis say there are 5000 kids killed by firearms, which would be 2/3?
Since we are debating national rifle control it's intresting to note that there were 358 rifle murders, rifles of all types, not just "assault weapons". 373 shotgun murders, 1704 knife killings, 1772 "other", and 745 "hands and feet including pushing".
Most of the “children” murdered are 14 to 24 year old gangbangers.
Another important stat that needs to be reposted widely:
“Over the last fifty years, with only one single exception (Gabby Giffords), every single mass shooting event with more than four casualties has taken place in a place where guns were supposedly not allowed.”
see:
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/
Statistics? What is occurring is about control of this nations destiny and whether we, those who value what little is left of our liberty, will allow it. Statistics do not matter.
I’d like to know the percentages on school shootings in the 100,000 plus schools both mass shootings and single shootings. I’m guessing its no more than 1% for shootings overall and a fraction of a percent for mass shootings.
There are usually a few gang related shootings in Detroit schools every year. Funny thing is that those gang bangers are probably a fair deterrent against mass shootings. After all, gang bangers are armed. LOL
You beat me to it. They always forget to say that they count people in their twenty’s as children. Yes they are someones child but they are not children.
“Statistics do not matter.”
They can be used to support our own propaganda, and these numbers can be traced to a source.
This fight is, right now, based on propaganda.
Yes, I agree.
I added up the number of school shooters involved in that period, and it’s about 50, over 50 years.
A very small number of people to try to isolate and control.
sfl
According to the FBI, mass murder is defined as four or more murders occurring during a particular event with no cooling-off period between the murders.
There were only 6-8 of these mass murders in 2012. That means all other firearm muders (a little less than 9,000) involved three or less deaths.
Now I don’t know how many so-called assault weapons or hi-cap mags were used in the vast majority of murders, but they gave no advantage to shooters killing less than trhee people.
If all so-called assault weapons and hi-cap mags disapeared, that 9,000 number wouldn’t change a bit. I doubt mass murder numbers would change either, though I’ll concede hi-cap mags are used often in mass murders.
wrong
most of the children murdered are between 5 and 26
weeks ... in vitro
1.2 MILLION each year. roughly 3400 EVERY DAY
the left are hypocrites for daring to pretend to care about 18 kids while doing everything they can to wipe out millions
“If all so-called assault weapons and hi-cap mags disapeared,”
The bad guys would switch to revolvers with moon clips or speedloaders, or go back to the old, pre-handgun days of fire.
I like your research.
You are right, a Roscoe with moon clips could do a lot of damage in most gun-free zones.
bttt
Wasn’t it Jerry Micklk (sp sorry) who fired 12 revolver shots in 6 seconds?
The mass shooter nuts practice and plan for more than a year.
“They can be used to support our own propaganda, and these numbers can be traced to a source.
This fight is, right now, based on propaganda.”
You yourself admit we are fighting a propaganda war. How is that working out for us now. The media is on the field backing the opposition and they control the message. Right now and for the foreseeable future that will remain the case.
I stand by my remarks. Dogma trumps fact every time when the deciders of the issue have been misinformed, uneducated or plain brain-dead from the age of reason and idolize an ideologue. Most of those who support Obama and the left would be hard pressed to give you the correct change at the conclusion of a simple monetary transaction much less absorb quoted statistics. Their reply to your statistics is and would be expected to be a blank stare and a retort consisting of “Nah. Obama says…”
Beyond that the left isn’t interested in examining any statistics presented by our side. They are on a mission. Look deep into Jerold Nadler’s face, or that of Nancy Pelosi. Look into John Kerry’s. Look at any of them. What do you see there? Honesty? Integrity? Loyalty? A desire to equitably decide an issue on the merits?
This is a fight for control and you can’t expect a people who have suckled the teat all of their lives, never having had to live without liberty under the control of a tyrants’ whimsical nature when they have never experienced a day when they did not have it or the tyrants’edicts and acts to affect their lives. They cannot even imagine the horrors that await them. They must live it to know.
I’m with you in this fight but if we base our arguments solely on statistics and the abilities of ‘trick shot quick draw artist’ arguments this will not end well. Mark my words.
WOULD BANNING FIREARMS REDUCE MURDER AND SUICIDE?, A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence by Don B. Kates and Gary Mauser, Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy (pp. 649-694)
"If you are surprised by [our] finding[s], so [are we]. [We] did not begin this research with any intent to “exonerate” handguns, but there it is — a negative finding, to be sure, but a negative finding is nevertheless a positive contribution. It directs us where not to aim public health resources."
We fight on all levels. We both agree that you don’t give up.
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