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1 posted on 12/20/2012 9:58:03 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Charge parents $1000 per child per year for public schooling. Give $1000 tax credit per child per year for home schooling.


2 posted on 12/20/2012 10:07:44 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: servo1969

What about the thousands of female teachers that don’t want to carry a firearm? If I was required to carry one, I could want my salary increased to reflect the added responsibility.

Too bad there aren’t many 25-50yo men that want to be teachers.


3 posted on 12/20/2012 10:09:28 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: servo1969

Put these men in schools and keep them there. All day, every day. Fortify entrances to schools and classrooms. This needs to be done in every single school. Install electronic and secondary security systems staffed by plain clothes personel who are carrying concealed.

If something is precious to you, then defend it like you mean it, otherwise, it's obviously not precious to you.

5 posted on 12/20/2012 10:28:21 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: servo1969
First of all the doors should lock when closing and people should need to be buzzed in. I know, I know. A lot of the schools were already doing this and then stopped because it became too much of a hassle.

Sandy Hook had already implemented this and it did not prevent Adam Lanza from getting in. He knew when the doors wete locked and entered the school shortly before the doors were locked. So, how is this a solution?

I'm starting to come down on the side of arming the teachers. Someone here at FR posted an interesting graphic that showed an armed teacher in Israel and an unarmed teacher in America. In the last 10 years in Israel, there have been 8 students killed at chool. Compare that to 323 American students killed in school in the last 10 years and tell me what works best?

8 posted on 12/20/2012 10:43:25 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: servo1969
Probably the easiest, quickest, and most effective thing that schools can do, is to take down the "gun-free zone" signs, and replace them with signs saying,

WARNING: Adults on this campus are armed, and will use deadly force in case of threat to life.

Spread the word through internal announcements and news media.

This can be done before actually arming any teachers or administrators, and will act as an immediate deterrent against would-be assailants.

9 posted on 12/20/2012 10:47:06 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: servo1969

I had a response ... but I forgot what it was when I saw the pictures.

SnakeDoc


10 posted on 12/20/2012 10:52:05 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Texas survived one Obama term, and we'll survive another. The rest of you are screwed.)
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To: servo1969

These are good suggestions. I’m going to share this. Thanks!


11 posted on 12/20/2012 10:52:45 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: servo1969

Start here.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1402637_The_Artemis_Project_NO_MORE_INNOCENT_VICTIMS.html&page=1


12 posted on 12/20/2012 10:54:04 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: servo1969

I live in the totalitarian state of New York city under Despot Mike Bloomberg (luckily so far, internet is not yet banned under Despot Bloomberg so I can still write to the outside world), and what I find curious is if you wander around the city in high crowd areas like Times Square, Time Warner center, 5th avenue, you’ll almost always find cops wearing full riot gear, helmets, brandishing automatic rifles. Yet around the schools absolutely nothing like that. Not even armed guards as far as I can tell.

To me this is done on purpose by Despot Bloomberg to let the people know they are living in a police state while at the same time letting them know they have absolutely no protection when it comes to them or their children, the better to submit to the police state like cowering lambs.

Pretty curious isn’t it? We are given the reason that these cops are armed like this in these high crowd areas because of the threat of terror, yet what good are guns going to be against some Mohammed who blows up his car which was attempted quite easily a few years ago and did not succeed because the explosives malfunctioned. Estimates were at a few 1000 people dead if these explosives did go off. Under the noses of these armed cops, Mohommed simply parked his explosive laden vehicle, lit the fuse and walked calmly away. No shots, nothing.

Yet how many school shootings have their been already as compared to some place like Times square? I say all this to show this guy Despot Bloomberg is completely full of BS when it comes to protecting kids or even the people. He does not give a damn about them. It’s all about power with this guy. Holding on and expanding his power in the totalitarian state of NYC. Making sure the people are not armed so as to keep them oppressed and cowering under the thumb of his police state. Continuing to steal the money of the people, dictate lifestyles to them, how they should eat, dress, work, play and how and when they should even help the less fortunate. Yes you read that right, he confiscates food donated to the homeless.


15 posted on 12/20/2012 11:02:54 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: servo1969

Years ago, I recall a scene from a movie, in which the frontier schoolmarm had a little trouble with some adolecent types that were about the sixth grade or so, and were already shaving, They were giving her all kinds of grief, which she settled in a rather unique way - she produced a six-shooter and had them stand up at the front of the room, with one of the old-fashioned inkwells from the school desk, filled up, on their heads. Then, rather like William Tell, she shot the inkwells, the ink ran down over them, and the formerly truculent youngsters, with tears streaming down their cheeks, were sent home, to explain to their mothers why their heads, faces and clothes were ink-stained. For sure, they would never be able to explain this to their fathers.

Dang, I wish I could recall the title of that movie. It might have been something about Annie Oakley.

Those kids NEVER gave her any more guff.


16 posted on 12/20/2012 11:03:51 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: servo1969
A few days after the tragic Sandy Hook school murders, a young Marine in fatigues stationed himself at the front entrance of the Nashville elementary school his two children attend. Another parent heard him admit to a reporter that he was unarmed. The other parent commented that, even though the young Marine standing guard was not armed, it made him “feel better” to know he was there.

It’s often been observed that “perception is more important than reality”. The observation is often correct. It is never MORE CORRECT than for those we’ve come to call “liberals”. I prefer “statist” but “liberal” has morphed from its classic meaning to the other end of the spectrum so I’ll stay with it.

Since these folks operate almost entirely on EMOTION and FEELING, REALITY seldom allows FACTS to intrude upon the delusional worldview they have constructed and the comfort that provides them. It is that illogical, irrational and delusional mindset that prompts many of them to continue to quest after a Utopian society. The thought that such a society can and will never be achieved in a fallen world populated with failed sinners never penetrates whatever remains of their cognitive consciousness. It’s a DANGEROUS WORLD and, as the liberals continue to “define deviancy down”, it becomes more dangerous daily.

There is another, far more sinister, level of the “liberal” call for gun control.

It was Mencken who offered that “The urge to save humanity is most often a false front for the URGE TO RULE.” He clearly had been a student of the liberal politicians of his day. Were he alive today and able to observe the likes of Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Obama and the rest, he’d almost certainly have used far stronger language to frame his sage observation.

To conclude, dozens of studies reveal the FACTS concerning gun control. Those FACTS are that where firearms are widely and READILY available to law-abiding citizens, CRIME GOES DOWN! The liberals who willfully ignore the FACTUAL EVIDENCE and continue to call for gun control (i.e. the DISARMING of DECENT CITIZENS, thereby denying them the ability to exercise their God-given right to self-defense) are those about whom Mencken wrote: Their goal is NOT about preserving life. It is about the hell-bent pursuit of the impossible to achieve Utopian world where all are equal but some (that’d be THEM) are MORE equal than others (that’d be US).

There are many PRO-RTKABA videos on You Tube that your often busy lives don’t allow you to find on your own. Search there for “Gun Control”, watch them – and, more importantly – SHARE THEM with the folks in your orbit.

We’re in a fight. And losing will ultimately cost us much more than our right to our guns.

Dick Bachert 12/19/2012

18 posted on 12/20/2012 11:08:50 AM PST by Dick Bachert (An ARMED society is a POLITE society!)
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To: servo1969

Locks on car doors don’t stop serious car thieves, but you would be foolish not to use them because you considered them futile. In a horrific situation like Newton, your goals become something like this:

1: Try to keep the intruder out as long as possible. Make the intruder spend time and resources to gain entry, or possibly make them change plans, making their attack less effective.

2: Try to limit the intruder’s movements once inside your facility. Basically, this is just goal 1 above, applied recursively to smaller portions of the building.

3: Have hardened “safe rooms” for precious assets, and a plan to get them there in a minute or two.

4: Have staff members that can deploy offensive measures. Guns, gazers, mace, heck, have you ever been blasted by a big fire extinguisher?

5: Video sources throughout the building that LEO’s can access, in the event that the intruder is still at large when they arrive.

Age and existing building design will dictate what measures are practical for goals 1 and 2 and 3, building codes can take care of future structures.

Goals 4 and 5 are just a matter of deciding to to them.


22 posted on 12/20/2012 11:21:47 AM PST by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: servo1969
The solution is simple. Train all the teachers and staff and make it publicly known that the teachers are permitted to carry concealed. It is not necessary to require them to be armed. The psychos and jihadists out there crave to do a lot of killing in their last act on Earth and will not choose an arena wherein they might get themselves killed before they can make their statement or acquire sufficient perceived glory. These things do not happen in non gun-free zones.

That is, of course, the one unthinkable approach to the problem. A liberal so abhors the sight and thought of guns that he truly feels it is better that 20 children get massacred than that there be legal guns in a school. To a liberal it is worth any number of dead innocents(except, perhaps, himself) to preserve a gun free status.

25 posted on 12/20/2012 11:31:57 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: servo1969

Do not hire armed police all you will get is the rejected TSA people. Make the teachers carry guns.


27 posted on 12/20/2012 11:33:16 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: servo1969

what they need to do, is install a small lock box in the admin office, and store 2 pistols. have the box wired so that accesssing it alerts the local police.

when trouble starts, authorized people in the admin office would have to be able to quickly open the safe, grab the guns and attempt to deal with the threat.

the teachers wouldnt like having guns in the school, but they would have to learn that its a different world and
they cant afford to be disarmed sheep.


32 posted on 12/20/2012 12:00:16 PM PST by tm61 (Election 2012: we find it IS possible, to polish a turd.)
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