Posted on 12/09/2012 1:00:31 PM PST by Kartographer
Rabbits are very tasty. When I was just a kid, once a year we celebrated Mom’s birthday at one of the fancier restaurants in town.
They didn’t have what I called normal food back then. Fancy stuff, lobster, shrimp, froglegs, rabbits, and noooo chicken which was my favorite.
Mom suggested I try the rabbit as a chicken substitue. It was pretty tasty. Also, the rabbit manure is very good for your garden. Course Dad sometime brought home rabbits and squirrels, along with deer meat. It was all pretty tasty. Never could go for the frog legs though, but I could eat the other stuff, if someone else would kill it and dress it, I could cook it and eat it again when SHTF.
Now if you keep your chicken pen so that the chickens can dig and scratch around, they will help keep the area under the rabbit cages spruced up too.
Some people will even pay you for that Rabbit poop for their organic gardens. Make a few extra bucks, sell chicken manure and rabbit poop. LOL.
Mmm. Amazing that we have most of this stuff and got almost all of it before we started “prepping”.
A couple of questions. First with bleach, I have never found any bleach for sale around here with an expiration date of more than 10 months.
Since we are wanting to collect 1-2 years or more of the most frequently used items as well as the most needed items, what is the best way to plan for long term storage of bleach particularly for cleaning, disinfectant and water purification? I have read conflicting things on this.
Second question: Club Soda. I grow my own strawberries,blackberries and some other fruits. I make a certain amount of syrup for snow cones, and combined with club soda to make a healthier pesticide free treat for the kids.
If we should find our water supply insuffiecient at some point, could we use plain club soda instead of water as a last resort?
I am not sure what is required for the various possible things that I might use it for.
Tops on the list I'd like to know:
Recharge batteries. A,AA,AAA,D,C
Recharge communication devices
Ability to run well pump
Ability to run fans
Ability to use a 1 burner hot plate
Ability to run a small micro wave
Ability to run a dehumidifier
Ability to run a small 1 room air conditioner
Now, I am in the process of researching all these, and not always understanding some of the technical stuff I am looking at. So if you know, any of this stuff, could you please keep it simple for me - you know kinda like solar power for dummies?
Buy some pool or hot tub powdered bleach in a good sealed container. Now that’s bleach power!
I make a killer paella but with seafood. The original traditional version calls for rabbit. I’ll get there eventually.
I’ve used iodine for water purification on backpacking trips in the past but I think I’ve read that it is now hard to get for some reason related to Homeland Security. It might be worth looking into, though. Also, don’t forget filtration systems.
More and more, as I read these lists, I think massive amounts of toilet paper, Depends and laundry detergent are all that most people will need, so they can die and be buried with some semblance of dignity after they sh*t in their pants when it all comes down.
A good place to start is to google “YouTube: Preppers Will Die in WROL.”
And speaking of “sh*tting in their pants” - anybody even have a clue about preventing and handling the number one killer, diarrhea, after SHTF?
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Research using pool shock to make bleach. It is a dry chemical that stores well and can be mixed with water to make bleach as needed. Storing liquid bleach for long periods is a loser, as you’ve already figured out.
I hate these lists because it reminds me of items I don’t have yet or I don’t have enough.
I don’t know where I got this so I cannot credit the true source.
Homemade Bleach
The major benefit of using Calcium Hypochlorite over Sodium Hypochlorite is shelf life. Calcium Hypochlorite (pool shock) is sold in a solid granular form and has a 10 year shelf life when stored in a cool, dark place. This will easily meet your long-term storage needs.
The other benefit is the amount of available chlorine. The concentration of chlorine is much higher with Calcium Hypochlorite. For example, a small 1-pound bag of calcium hypochlorite can disinfect up to 10,000 gallons of drinking water. That’s around 5 gallons/day for one person for 5 1/2 years! Not bad for only 1 lb of granules.
Making Chlorine Bleach
To make a chlorine bleach solution using calcium hypochlorite, here are some formulas I got from the Army Technical Bulletin entitled, “SANITARY CONTROL AND SURVEILLANCE OF FIELD WATER SUPPLIES” (TB MED 577).
From the Army manual, to make a concentrated chlorine solution that you can use for disinfecting water (or to be used in maintaining a clean and sanitary living environment), you’ll want to use calcium hypochlorite that has around 70% available chlorine.
If you’re buying pool shock, on the back of the bag it will tell you what percentage of chlorine is available. The one I use is called “Zappit 73 Pool Shock, it is pure calcium hyphochlorite that contains up to 73% available chlorine and sells for around $ 5 for a 1lb bag.
To make the homemade chlorine bleach solution, you’ll need to do the following:
Mix 2 level Tablespoons of Calcium Hypochlorite to 3 cups of water.
After you’ve made your stock of chlorine solution, you’ll want to follow the formula from the Army Technical Bulletin in determining how much of the above stock chlorine solution you’ll need for your desired number of gallons of water to be disinfected. *Note: I’ve updated the formula to calculate the same concentration that household bleach has. If you have questions, fire me an email and I’ll be more than happy to explain the math.
mL of stock chlorine required = (desired concentration (mg/L)*number of gallons to be treated)/18.12
The desired concentration refers to how much chlorine in mg/L you want the disinfected water to have. A recommended amount is 7 mg/L of concentration. This equates to adding 8 drops of household liquid bleach to 1 gallon of water (the recommended amount when disinfecting water with household bleach).
Given these amounts, if you wanted to disinfect 1 gallon of water with the homemade chlorine solution, the formula would be as follows:
(7*1)/18.12
This equates to .38mL or 8 drops of the concentrated solution per gallon of water. Just like normal household bleach!
So the 3 step process is as follows:
Place 8 drops of homemade chlorine bleach in 1 gallon of water
Let stand for 30 min
If water is still cloudy, repeat steps until clear; otherwise it is ready to drink
Keep in mind, that once the homemade chlorine bleach is made it will follow the same shelf-life limitations as standard household liquid bleach. So be sure to only make amounts you will be using within that time frame.
It has been used in traditional European medicine for over a thousand years. Has no known contraindications, no known side effects, no restrictions known during pregnancy, and no known interaction with other drugs.
disclaimer: I am not a doctor or herbalist, and I did not stay in a Holiday Inn last night. Any one following these instructions assumes all liability. My source for this information is a Herbal Medicine Book which contains the Commission E Monographs. You assume all risk if you take this advice.LOL.
Thank you so much. That is just what I am looking for. I wasn’t sure of the pros and cons of these 2 choices. I really appreciate the effort you made to give me some really detailed advice. Thanks again.
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The Amazing Light... Glows All Night and Lasts Forever! - “Glow in the Dark” Lights, and Glow Sticks
http://www.uvpaqlite.com/index.html
I ordered four large Glow Sticks, and placed them in a glass vase on top of the refrigerator for use as a night light.
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we use them all the time down here while fishing.
We used to put them on swordfish lines at night as well.
Wow. Very cool.
Thanks for the ping.
You’re welcome, thecodont.
They’re fun for children, too, and they never need batteries.
I Don’t see why you could use the club soda.
As far as bleach:
Better than Bleach: Use Calcium Hypochlorite to Disinfect Water
Research making bleach with pool shock. It is a dry chemical that can be stored for long periods, then mixed with water to make bleach as needed.
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