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That’s exactly my take on it all as well. I honestly couldn’t believe Hillary was defeated by him in the primaries. There is no doubt that the Clintons knew of all of these things as well.

I do remember the folks active in PUMA were hoping that the Blago trial (which went so much higher than the Gov.) would snare Obama in it as well, but that didn’t go as they had hoped, either... (They had talked about indictments through rumors out of Fitzgerald’s US Attorney’s office, but most of them never materialized - except for Blago.) Everyone above Blago got ignored, and he was the fall guy for all of it (not that he didn’t deserve to be in prison, just that he, by far, should not be the only one from that particular trial).

From what I understand, the PUMA folks also had record of voter fraud in the primaries, but Clinton never followed up on those charges, either. Then the dirty dealing with the delegates at the convention and Hillary got majorly screwed. In fact, there was one guy from Arkansas, I believe, that was murdered just before the convention. His wife stood in for him at the convention and declared all of Arkansas’ delegates for Obama when previously they would have been for Clinton. Doesn’t take a genius to figure that out... Even if it was rather shocking that his own wife would stand there and make the proclamation as she did.

Then, after all of it was said and done, Hillary took the SOS position - there was definitely something going on behind the scenes - whether they were direct threats, blackmail, etc... is up in the air at this point, IMO.

And, yes, this is almost all speculation on my part, but the instances I reference are true (like the PUMA stuff, the rumors, the delegate problems, etc...).