[Buckeye McFrog]

that ship has sailed

Sadly you are correct. We are now living in a Euro-style center-left Social Democracy and will be for a very long time I think. (it took the USSR 70 years to spend its wealth down to the fail point, and we are starting out much further ahead. The fail may take several lifetimes.)

[RIghtwardHo]

Agreed. This will last beyond my grand children’s lifetime, at a minimum.

Oh Conservatives will win a little here, a little there for awhile. But whoever doesn’t think that America hasn’t fundamentally, and permanently changed, is fooling themselves.

[rellimpank]

—mostly agree with you but think the social,political and economic situation will in a few years more closely resemble a mixture of Venezuela, Brazil and Argentina-—

[qman]

Disagree about the time frame to collapse, of course collapse does not mean restoration, we could go very deep before seeing the light. Germany went very deep before it recognized just how bad it was, by then the price had to be payed in a river of blood. How much more will the world pay should we take that downward spiral, with the massive war machine we’ve built and an administration frantically searching for a scapegoat, jews beware america searching for someone to blame!

[WashingtonSource]

Stop with the excessive pessimism. We lost one election, for God’s sake. This defeatism is morally wrong.