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Obama to bypass congress to ban semiautomatic firearms, warns expert
examiner.com ^ | Nov. 26, 2012 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 11/27/2012 8:30:35 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

An anti-gun owner initiative considered in Washington could lead to massive civil disobedience and a severe domestic crisis, gun law expert John M. Snyder warned on Friday.

"According to confidential information," he said, "forces linked with the administration suggest the government classify semiautomatic firearms and multiple capacity ammunition feeding devices as Title 2 National Firearms Act items under the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Americans familiar with federal gun laws understand that under this scenario, semiautomatics and high capacity magazines could be acquired only with great difficulty and at great expense by America's estimated 100 million law-abiding firearms owners, notes Snyder.

According to Snyder and other gun ownership advocates, the Obama administration long ago realized it would have insurmountable difficulty getting a semiautomatic gun ban, such as that considered by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and others, passed Congress, especially when the House is controlled by defenders of the Second Amendment.

Congressional Second Amendment supporters already are preparing for such a battle. During the Clinton years, Congress enacted a partial, temporary semiautomatic ban but allowed it to sunset after 10 years because of its lack of significant negative impact on crime, according to surveys conducted by the National Association of Chiefs of Police.

The Obama administration, now safely reelected, may order the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to take the classification step. Some gun-grabbers view the designation of Street Sweeper shotguns as Title 2 firearms during the Clinton administration as precedent for such a move.

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To: Spktyr
No, because they don’t reload the chamber by themselves after a shot is fired. You have to manually reload (bring a new chamber into alignment with the barrel) by the discrete action of pulling the trigger again or cocking the hammer, even on a DA revolver.

Well that's true if you want to get all technical on me. :)

But in the sense of "one shot per trigger pull", it's the same as a semi-auto.

101 posted on 11/28/2012 1:57:55 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

30-06 is fine. Use Hornady Super Match 185 grain .

Scope:
Luepold MK IV or Schmidt & Bender.

Reach out and touch someone with your long distance cordless drill....


102 posted on 11/28/2012 2:08:25 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not gonna happen using that logic anyway. Street sweepers were over 50 cal which brought them under the 1934 NFA. Any kind of re-definition within the 1968 GCA requires congress to do it. With Fast and Furious slowing up in his face I’m guessing Obamuzzie won’t want to tangle with guns for awhile.


103 posted on 11/28/2012 2:16:48 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: DTogo

Also:

April 19, 1943 - beginning of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.
April 19, 1993 - murder of the Branch Davidians.
April 19, 1995 - Oklahoma City bombing.


104 posted on 11/28/2012 2:43:39 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: POTUS
C.A.G.I., Fool !
105 posted on 11/28/2012 3:02:15 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: F15Eagle

Makes you really wonder what was the motivation of those who slammed “birthers”....


106 posted on 11/28/2012 3:35:24 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: mykroar; doc1019
Mine were all lost is a fire the day before this passes.

I don't think that will fly. I would advise losing them in a boating incident. Rough seas, they all fell overboard or maybe you had to toss them overboard to keep the boat from sinking.

107 posted on 11/28/2012 3:37:46 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Terry Mross
So that means every gun except revolvers and single shot guns are all that would be legal.

I believe that they will try to reclassify revolvers as semi-automatic since the chamber rotates automatically as you pull the trigger thereby putting the next bullet in line for firing.

108 posted on 11/28/2012 3:41:44 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Unintended consequences. Expand NFA enough and people will discover its just $200 tax and some paperwork - and a whole new world of guns opens up to them. Those pesky restrictions evaporate: 16” barrel limit? Any length now. Flash suppressors? Get a silencer instead. Semi auto? Heck, full auto - 922(o) would fall soon after. BATFE would be deluged with paperwork, and courts declaring the bureaucratic delays unconstitutional.

And before you say “but in NY”: I bought my first NFA gun in NY, a 12ga pistol (!), all legal to the amusement of the sheriff who signed the forms.

He knows not he game he is about to play...


109 posted on 11/28/2012 3:51:33 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: 43north
Its been too long coming. Let’s get it over with.

Amen to that! I believe it is a quote from Thomas Jefferson that applies here (not sure I have quoted it exactly accurate, but here goes).....

"The tree of liberty must be watered now and then, with the blood of tyrants and that of patriots"

I believe we are well past that thresh hold for the past 20 years or so, perhaps longer.

110 posted on 11/28/2012 3:55:11 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: 43north
Wolverines..........take back America!!!!!


111 posted on 11/28/2012 3:57:16 PM PST by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: umgud

112 posted on 11/28/2012 4:21:16 PM PST by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: Jack Hammer

I kind of disagree.

There seems to be a growing sentiment among the public, especially with the high-profile mass shootings, of supporting this.

Remember the ones that voted for Obama? They are the majority now, and they would support a law like this.


113 posted on 11/28/2012 4:38:41 PM PST by turn_to
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To: DuncanWaring

Coincidence?..


114 posted on 11/28/2012 5:38:04 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: DuncanWaring

Coincidence?..


115 posted on 11/28/2012 5:38:13 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Unclear if this is real..if so, the party starts early:

Slipping Below The Radar: Obama’s ‘Horrific’ Gun Ban List Proposal... | Alan Korwin

http://redflagnews.com/opinion/obamas-gun-ban-list-is-out-by-alan-korwin


116 posted on 11/28/2012 7:01:37 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: Terry Mross
So that means every gun except revolvers and single shot guns are all that would be legal.

No, with long guns you'd still have bolts, pumps and lever actions, and even the semis wouldn't be quite "illegal", just a PITA to own, you'd have to register them like machine guns, etc. Besides, with freedom-phobes like these, what would make a revolver exempt? It still fires once per pull, just like an auto.

117 posted on 11/28/2012 7:06:53 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Repeat Offender

semi-auto’s and full clips will... just saying ;)


118 posted on 11/28/2012 7:36:02 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: turn_to

I’m on the other side of this issue.

Read the headlines these days - everybody and his brother and his sister and their pet pooch is buying a firearm lately. They can’t keep them in the shops.

Democrats, Republicans, Liberals, Conservatives, Black, White, Asian, Latino... nobody wants a tax on firearms.

In fact, nobody wants any more firearms legislation, period, except a few far left legislators who are completely out of touch with their constituencies.

I don’t see it happening.


119 posted on 11/28/2012 9:09:12 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Dead Corpse; cableguymn
"They say there is 30 feet of muck down there. could swallow everything."

I'd say let's test that theory with a couple hundred legislators.

That suggestion is manifestly unfair to hogs...they've got a right to be fed with something a bit more tasty than slop and corn.

120 posted on 11/29/2012 7:13:57 AM PST by Ancesthntr (You liberal morons wanted Obama, now you get to deal with the consequences.)
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