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To: expat1000
I'd like to get some of what Greenfield is smoking. It must be pretty impressive stuff.

I have never been more distressed by an election in my life, and that goes back a ways.

In my neighborhood people didn't stay home. They turned out in massive numbers. Everything I hold near and dear wasn't defeated in my neighborhood. It was routed, steam rollered, hammered, overwhelmed and paraded to show what a sap I am to think the way we do.

I may have been distressed if Obama had lost a close election. It would have been depressing to think he could get a significant minority to vote for a guy who despises the country the way he does. The fact that the majority feels that way suggests to me that it's over.

None of this means Obama's policies...the salient ones he has succeeded in implementing, by the way...are other than catastrophic. Nevertheless, perhaps Mr. Greenfield can explain to me how even a conservative victory in four years will succeed in disenfranchising any of it. At best sensible people may someday get a chance to tinker around the edges. And what will cause the conservatives to suddenly become a majority?

Obama has wanted to destroy major industries in this country. What is slowing him down?

Who plans to stop him for even the next two years? Boehner? Now that should prove entertaining to watch. We can start an over-under board as to how long it will take the House to cave on every issue.

The Supreme Court? In four years we will probably lose at leat one and probably two more justices while Roberts keeps growing and maturing.

Obama is at war with the Catholic Church. I think even a majority of Catholics voted for him. I hope I'm wrong, but don't think so.

We hear day after day that minorities are getting more conservative, or that hysterical line that blacks are really conservative...just ask them about issues. It looks to me like minorities are getting more liberal. That has been the trend my entire life.

Sorry for the downer post. I'm not going to change my beliefs in this world, I just never see them prevailing. I almost think we would be better off standing aside and let Obama complete the destruction. We're paying for his policies with monopoly money now. Maybe when there is nothing left, we might be able to get something the tiniest bit usable from the ashes.

I would never have believed a guy could run on a platform of hatred and destruction as Obama has, succed in making huge and growing numbers of people more miserable by the day, and attract a majority to say, "Yes, yes, give us more." When he makes things even worse, I wonder if it won't make his majority even larger.

If we didn't lose this election, really lose it hard, I sure hope I can become one of the uncaring before a real loss comes along.

19 posted on 11/25/2012 11:10:51 AM PST by stevem
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To: stevem
You are not alone in your feelings, believe me. I was willing to write off the '08 result as a kind of fluke. The country had been swung by the media into a frenzy of hate-Bush and hate-Republicans and Obama was there to capitalize on that sentiment. Not so in '12. People knew who Obama was and what he stood for, and they not only did not repudiate it, they embraced it. That has really shaken my faith in the electorate and the country. I knew the majority of the sheeple were incredibly intellectually lazy, but I had some hope they would see through their stupor enough to send Obama packing, but no dice.

Maybe it's just that I am older, but I am about ready to say I'm done with it. Maybe because in past defeats there was some rationale, some hope for the future. I lived through the Goldwater slaughter of '64, but I could see that at least we had some hope of picking up the pieces in '68 when LBJ went down the tubes, which I could see he surely would. Same in '76. The country turned to a loser like Carter as a response to Nixon and Watergate, and we had Reagan waiting in the wings to gallop to the rescue. I don't see that happening in '16. Who do we have to look forward to then? Hillary. That's too depressing to even contemplate at this point. Time to find the gulch.

20 posted on 11/25/2012 11:22:00 AM PST by chimera
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