Posted on 11/16/2012 8:39:19 PM PST by SquarePants
I guess there was a time when unions did some good. I know my great grandfather was a big supporter of them, but frankly I can't see where they do anything good at all anymore. From the time I was a kid, all I've ever understood about them was that they're associated with organized crime, and they're physically violent and proud of it. But over the last couple of years I've learned a little bit more, and I have to say I'm not at all enthusiastic about what I've seen.Cloward-Piven. Push policies that make things worse and worse and worse. That way everyone will see the wisdom of your policies and be eager to march toward a socialist utopia where no one ever works at all.
I think you’re very insightful...
I worked in the factory doing everything from working on the conveyor lines, driving a forklift, working the cup making machines, repairing the conveyor system, you name it.
I was working there to save money to go to College (my first time) and because I worked in the factory that also made the "Sweetheart Cones" I had to be a member of the Bakers and Confectioner's union - which is now part of the Union that caused Hostess to go under.
I cannot think of a more WORTHLESS union than the Bakers & Confectioners union. Took $16 out of my paycheck every two weeks and did NOTHING in return.
In fact, it was the Bakers & Confectioner's union's rules that cost a man his life at Sweetheart Cup.
The union's rules ensured that a known DRUNK at the factory was allowed to drive a clamp forklift. Those forklifts lifted 4,500+ pound rolls of paper and loaded them onto the cup machines. Those rolls were HUGE, and stacked 5-7 rolls high.
This DRUNK that the Union said had to be trained to drive the clamp forklift because it was "his turn in line" ended up running this huge clamp forklift into a stack of paper rolls, knocking them over and killing someone.
I saw it happen and I quit that day.
Like I said, I cannot think of a more WORTHLESS and I'll add CORRUPT union than the "Bakers & Confectioners" union.
Yea, Union wins, workers lose. I can’t imagine giving up a paycheck for a principle, at least not for an 8 percent principle. Because of the selfishness of a few 18,000 lose their jobs. Gee, aren’t unions wonderful.
Hostess is/was one of the bigger clients at my own job. Thsi affects my own job, too. The people I talked to from hostess deal in data and sales. They made regular salaries and are very very nice people. One guy has been with the co. for many years, is fairly old and may have a tough time finding new work.
And from what I understand, they were offered a 25% stake in the company as a concession for the 8% paycut.
Legalized extortion....
Hah! Hah! Take that, capitalist thugs! You one-percenters!
Stickin’ it TO the MAN!
A majority of these idiots are comfortable with an idea of loosing their jobs. Why work for a couple a bucks if you can do nothing and still has your 1.5 bucks? Welfare is a problem, ruined work ethics and basic human honor as well.
That is their shame. Not stupidity, not malice, not depravity. But their absolute refusal - absolute refusal - to learn.
And what is it they refuse to learn?
That denial doesn't work.
Even God won't forgive that.
In my earlier days I was a member of both the United Steelworkers and later the Boilermakers.
They seemed to exist only to obstruct the company and protect the lamest of employees. Never did much of anything for me.
We were on strike at Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Co.(17,000 blue collars at the time) for 13 weeks and extracted a $1.00/hr pay raise. Meanwhile I volunteer repo’ed my new vehicle, etc. Big win, eh?
Unions long ago passed their hour of need and drove manufacturing elsewhere.
Until such a time as welfare monies run out. I hope I’m wrong, but I foresee a day when we have rioting in our streets.
The most worthless by far are the government employee unions. Government unions are money laundering systems where the public officials grant raises and benefits to the union employees and then receive donations for their next election from these same union members to whom they just gave a raise. And the taxpayer has to pay for it all.
Union folks don’t want to own a piece of the company, that would make them part of the anti-union establishment. When you are unionized mentally, you are so against being part of the company that employs you that you would rather starve then become part of the “company”.
Union members are, for the most part, mental midgets, brainwashed by their leaders.
Moveon.org got the memo. Sent out a new email today. It’s the 2% now. 1% was soooooo before the election. Wonder when the monies start to dry up it will be the 53%? Soon, the takers will be so top heavy the whole stinkin’ scam will topple over.
Well, it probably won’t take long.
Most employers will screen out union oriented workers in their hiring process.
My guess is that the Hostess plants in Closed Shop states will not reopen with new owners. Production and distribution of Hostess brands will move to right to work states.
And these are the direct impacts, what about the in-direct hits to other businesses and vendors?
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