Posted on 11/16/2012 6:59:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Papa John's CEO John Schnatter is going to cut his workers' hours, lay off workers, and increase the price of his pizzas by 11 to 14 cents. Why? Because the president was re-elected. More specifically, due to Obamacare. And he is not alone. Walmart is cutting hours, as is Denny's, and some other larger franchises like Red Lobster, Olive Garden, etc.
As with the companies mentioned above, those on the right want to blame the president, Democrats, Obamacare, etc.—yet they had layoffs or planned them as far back as 2009 and 2010. Were they all clairvoyant? Did they all know the president would be re-elected? And what if Mitt Romney had been elected? With more Democrats in the House and Senate, would the "repeal and replace" idea of Obamacare have succeeded? I think not.
What these companies and their owners are missing is personal responsibility.
As the owner of two small businesses, when times were tough, I took a paycut—I did not reduce my employees' hours or their wages. How many zeros is in CEO John Schnatter's paycheck? Or that of the Walmart CEO? This is a company that even during the recession posted profits.
In California, the state I live in, businesses are required to pay for 50 percent of their employees' health benefits if the company has a group healthcare plan in place. This was long before Obamacare, long before the president was elected the first time around. And California's not alone—other states have similar things in place...
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You’ve been around here long enough to remember what happened with CA Proposition 187. The will of CA citizens to limit services to illegals was flouted by a Federal judge and declared unconstitutional. The Feds are now doing the same thing to AZ. I don’t know where you live but if your state tries to fight the illegal invasion the Feds will make sure it loses too.
This morning some liberal idiot tried to tell me that CA was going to have a surplus instead of a deficit next year.
Those are NOT "subpar wages" for the pizza business. Those are prevailing wages; otherwise employees leave PappaJohn's (since they are not chained to the tables) and seek employment elsewhere.
It was Papa John that came up with the figure of O-care costing his company another 5-8 million a year. Using Papa John's own number the author did the math to show that Papa John's per pie number is hugely inflated compared to what the additional costs are going to be.
Quit your sniveling. You come off sounding as if you are happy O won....that’s just plain nuts on its face.
I am happy that Obama won.
Well Obama wouldn't say John didn't build it either. He would say that John didn't build it alone . . . which he didn't. He had help from infrastructure society provided to people willing to apply for the jobs he needed to done in order to successfully expand his business.
Where would those tens of thousands of workers be if Papa John had not worked his fingers to the bone, put up his own money and who knows what else to build this?
Where would John be without those tens of thousands of workers executing his plan?
What it boils down to is that HE took all the risks. He could have ended up destitute and having to start over from scratch with no money if he had bolloxed it up. But he didn't. He built a giant in the industry.
Ridiculous. There were plenty of other people risking things along with him. Did John take the most risk? Sure. But to claim that John is the only one that took a risk is dumb.
All the workers have to do is submit a job application, get hired and do what is expected of them to draw a check. That is the contract between someone who conceptualized, designed and runs a business, and the people he hires to make it happen. They aren't noble heroes. They are people getting paid.
Using your same logic John isn't some noble hero either. He's getting paid too.
And their baseline appreciation is having a job, getting a paycheck so they can support their families, something they would have had to scrape out themselves, conceptualize themselves, sell themselves and assume all the risks themselves without someone like Papa John who did that FOR them.
Wow, nice serf-like mindset you have. The workers should be thankful to their liege lord Papa John.
They should be damned grateful. I know I am for my job.
Papa John should be damn grateful for his workers too and want to make sure that they are able to afford healthcare insurance for themselves and their families. I can't imagine the unbelievable pressure having your costs go up less than 1% in order to make sure your employees can access the healthcare system must put on someone like Papa John.
I am not the type of person who can do what Papa John did, or the person who founded the institution that I work at. I know that. So I am exceedingly grateful that someone did that heavy lifting so I have a professional framework to learn and grow in. They don't owe me anything more than doing their best to run a self-sustaining profitable organization. In return, I work hard at my job to make sure I fulfill my end of the bargain.
They're asking you to commit a large portion of your life to helping them be successful. They damn sure do owe you something for the sacrifice you are willing to make for them.
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Calling them "prevailing wages" doesn't make them any less subpar.
They are not subpar for the industry.
LOL!!!!!
Use it in good health, FRiend!
The CEO should give himself a raise and fire the complainers!!!
It’s none of the workers business what the owner makes.
Correct. LIBS think that businesses are there to provide employment. Reality check: businesses are there to make a profit and hire people to make it so. Tell a LIB that the 401K they have invested in required a corporation to make a profit and you will be met by a blank stare.They have no clue about where Corp’s get their money or where Gov’t gets their money, either.
So what is “prevaling” wage for a pizza industry worker and what is”sub-par”?
All of us have a choice, to:
A) Work there
B) Work somewhere else
C) Start our own business
D) Cry how unfair it is and rely on the Federal Government for our well being
Personally, I’d go with A, B,or C
I think you are right and said the same thing to my wife at breakfast this morning
(Stop reading my mind...Need more tin foil...LOL)
Funny, but true, we had this conversation.
Liberals also don’t understand economic value.
They don’t comprehend that some people’s work is, in fact, more valuable than that of others. They think that just because someone has some passing association with a total revenue stream means they have a more or less equal share thereof. They completely reject the notion that one person’s work may be worth orders of magnitude more than most others; the person making pizzas works just as hard and is worth just as much as the person organizing thousands of pizza makers.
I’ve observed a wide range of work and productivity. Those earning more digits in their paychecks do, on the whole, _earn_ it: it’s not some abuse of “luck of the draw” or borderline criminal activity, it is genuine generation of greater value. People who aspire to the mundane, people who who clock out at 5 (or, practically, before their shift ends), people who freak out over daily mishaps (and don’t act to prevent them), etc are not in a position to make consistently correct decisions/designs/deliverables affecting thousands of employees, millions of customers and billions of dollars. Those tasked with orders of magnitude more risk, and who can deliver at that scale, earn orders of magnitude more compensation. Can most people, with just 2 days’ notice, make an effective sales pitch involving ten million customers - and not suffer a mental breakdown? or make pricing decisions on the scale of a billion pizzas a year? or design a product line so well that market cap reaches half a trillion dollars? Would you trust most people to that job? How much do you pay someone who _can_ do that well - when others are willing to pay a lot more for that talent?
But no. Leftists think “Papa” John should cut his income - isn’t fair otherwise, you see...
Really? He’d just close shop and go home? Would you put Solyndra in that category as well?
If you could hear yourself, look into the mirror, do you really beleive that?
So Romney suppoter John Schantter has no heart?
Show me your proof of that. Tell me where he ha said “I am a sore-loser Romney supporter wanting to take my ball and go home”?
Is it that he is facing the Companies economic reality and you are the one who wants to take the ball home with you and quit playing?
Are you ready to pay for 22-24 dollar pizzas( that are now $12-14)so that you will feel better?
Companies do not pay higher taxes,or fees, or mandates, WE DO. They pass those on to ALL of us, Liberal and Conservative. If not, they lay off, cut back, move to another country, etc...Do you understand this premise?
It’s a liberal troll.
I understand and agree completely. I have 30+ years experience in what I do and I have people who think I am over-paid. My boss recently said to me that, while most Americans, on a scale from 1 to 10, deal with a 6 to 7 stress rate, you deal with a 12! They were right, but I’ve earned that right to the dollars that go along with that. I am not wealthy, but earn upper-mid 5 figures for it and have paid for a home and college for my children along the way. And yes, earlier in my career, I worked roofing jobs, throwing newspapers, and fast food (not unlike Papa John’s) to supplement my income along the way. Played guitar in a band as well (one of my more rewarding sidelines)
I come home every night and do not feel one bit guilty that I have earned my pay.
I know, I really don’t expect an “honest” answer. So far, it is a “sore loser” argument from him/her, but it is kind of fun to challenge them!
Playing with your food, are you? ;)
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