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Math-Challenged Silly People Voting Libertarian Cost GOP Victory in At Least 9 Congressional Races
Reaganite Republican ^ | 16 November 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 11/16/2012 3:21:20 AM PST by Reaganite Republican



The good news comes via instapundit:

PEOPLE WILL LOVE THIS: Libertarians provided the margin for Democrats in at least nine elections. It’s particularly sad that libertarians didn’t back Mia Love. Really, you’re not going to vote for a candidate whose favorite economist is Bastiat? Apparently not.


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So thanks Paulbot idiots- it all went-down just like we told you it was going to.

Any independent or Libertarian candidate running on the right is as much an enemy to American conservatives as are the progs: in our two-party system these people have zero chance of achieving real power or accomplishing anything meaningful, and are about as relevant as the Whig Party.  

That is, unless you count 'handing elections to Democrats', where they get to throw a tantrum, be heard, and do damage to conservatives- why does anybody think Ron and Rand Paul ran as Republicans? Because they want to WIN and take power, not sit at home dreaming about it- that's why

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: cost; libertarian; republicans; victory
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To: tacticalogic

Odd that the libertarian is the one seeking intervention. :)


161 posted on 11/16/2012 6:12:40 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Odd that the libertarian is the one seeking intervention. :)

I need a break from the news. Call them up and explain to them how I'm trying to legalize drugs by pointing out that the federal government has no constitutional authority to legalize drugs, so the couldn't if they wanted to.

That could be the funniest thing I've seen all week. :)

162 posted on 11/16/2012 6:22:04 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Heh. Thanks sir. I am having a really crappy day today.


163 posted on 11/16/2012 7:12:04 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I might trade with you. I’m carrying a pager that I wasn’t on the schedule for, and it’s going off......


164 posted on 11/16/2012 7:15:22 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

A lot of people really didn’t care if obama won, & they’re not worried in the least about the healthcare debacle.


165 posted on 11/16/2012 7:20:01 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: JCBreckenridge

And again, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, not Your English Common Law. This idiot “civil contract” clause is part of how the gays are pushing gay marriage...

Your short signed stupidity is wearing thin.


166 posted on 11/16/2012 7:21:58 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: tacticalogic

special person in my life really let me down and I’m going to have to finally give up on them. :(


167 posted on 11/16/2012 7:39:51 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Don’t see people. See souls.


168 posted on 11/16/2012 7:45:28 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Yeah, well, she staggered in very poor shape yesterday afternoon. Fixed her up got her set up for the next week or so.

She’s not come back tonight after sleeping herself off. So I am very concerned something has happened. She is not known for missing appointments, and the last time she missed one - it was very, very bad news for all involved.

To top it off, it’s not even my place. Owners arent going to give her another chance if she blows this one.


169 posted on 11/16/2012 7:50:33 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

People can be fragile. Souls are eternal. Keep what you can. That’s all the advice I have.


170 posted on 11/16/2012 7:57:22 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Thanks sir. Pray for her please. She needs all the help she can get.


171 posted on 11/16/2012 8:00:14 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

“First goal has to be dismantling Obamacare. Then you go after welfare and social security.

I don’t really see why dope legalization is in the top 100 issues facing America today.”
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Exactly, just an assinine diversion


172 posted on 11/16/2012 9:51:39 PM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: JCBreckenridge

You’ve not bothered to inform yourself in the least. I’m actually entertained by your pompous demeanor, though.

Do continue.


173 posted on 11/16/2012 10:45:15 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: MachIV
From the Libertarian Party platform statement:

Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a credible threat to security, health or property.

Since Libertarians are anti-welfare, we can take this to mean that non-working foreigners are not welcome.

I have no real problem with immigrants who come here to work. I've known several people that run construction crews and they all say the same thing about immigrant laborers: They typically out-work Americans and will actually show up on time with stunning regularity. A good number of Americans in the construction trades are irresponsible slackers with substance abuse problems and can't be relied on to come to work every day.

174 posted on 11/17/2012 4:53:47 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
REPUBLICANS are still asking themselves why Mitt Romney lost.

CONSERVATIVES, on the other hand, already know why Mitt Romney lost.

Do we? I'm not so sure. Maybe Romney lost because the people that voted for McCain in 2008 and stayed home this time were principled conservatives who wouldn't vote for a Massachusetts liberal. But how do you prove that theory? There are no exit polls of people who didn't show up to vote.

As for what started this discussion, there's no reason to believe that every libertarian would have voted for Romney if there were no Libertarian Party. The socially liberal ones might have voted for Obama based on abortion or gay marriage.

The conservative minor parties didn't get enough votes to make a difference.

It may be that Romney lost because he was too conservative for an increasingly liberal country, or because Wall Street's reputation is tarnished after the financial meltdown, or because Obama gives a better speech.

If there's any hard evidence favoring one theory over another I'd love to see it.

175 posted on 11/17/2012 6:48:20 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: JCBreckenridge
Since, as you assert, gay marriage, drug legalization and abortion are not essential parts of what it means to be a libertarian - libertarians ought to be willing to concede these issues to conservatives.

The crux of the abortion issue is human life. If unborn babies are human then libertarian philosophy is anti-abortion. Pro-abortion libertarians make the same arguments that pro-abortion Democrats make, that the unborn aren't really human.

Ironically the most hated libertarian on FR, Ron Paul, is anti-abortion.

Libertarians usually claim gay marriage is just a contract. This is a far more radical stand than that taken by liberals, who limit their ambition to giving homosexuals the right to marry each other and be subject to the same obligations and responsibilities as normal married couples, at least for now. The libertarian approach would immediately allow for polygamy and every other variation, as well as temporary "marriage" and prostitution.

Drug legalization, however, is the one issue where all libertarians agree. If they repealed all federal drug laws the next step would be to repeal all state drug laws, as well as any local regulations.

With pot this would have few negative side effects. Heroin, that's a horse of a different color.

176 posted on 11/17/2012 7:09:56 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: MaxFlint
If they repealed all federal drug laws the next step would be to repeal all state drug laws, as well as any local regulations.

I say let them repeal all the federal drug laws, on one condition. They do it by overturning Wickard v Filburn.

177 posted on 11/17/2012 7:19:11 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Already proven false.

How so? "Asserted," maybe -- by Democrats and Libertarians -- but proven? It takes more than three words to do that.

FWIW, Peter Torkildsen, the last Republican to hold the Massachusetts seat, lost it to Tierney in 1996 by under 400 votes when independent candidates got over 10,000 votes. There wasn't a Libertarian candidate that year, but the results are a clear indication of the damage that third party candidates can do.

178 posted on 11/17/2012 8:20:31 AM PST by x
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To: JCBreckenridge
You see what you want to see.

Do you know when and why the Libertarian Party was founded?

It was founded in 1971, when Republican Big Government President Richard Nixon instituted wage and price controls. Just imagine Obama doing the same.

The libertarians I knew were most concerned about economic liberty as the foundation for protecting freedom.

And for the life of me, I can't understand self-identified "conservatives" defending drug prohibition. Drug Prohibition was just another progressive program to force people to behave morally. Why prop up liberalism? Insanity.

179 posted on 11/17/2012 8:53:29 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Here's an article from Breitbart looking at the same results and coming to a different conclusion: GOP Reaps Its Abandonment of Limited Government

The squishes and careerists who make up the professional GOP are at fault again. What a surprise.

180 posted on 11/17/2012 8:56:55 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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