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To: Gluteus Maximus

First, the inciement to secede is treasonous. There is a lawful means by which a State may join and leave the union with the United States of America. None of these so-called petitions remotely complies with such Consitutional niceties.

Secondly, every person who participates in one of these petitions inciting treasonous secession is giving aid and comfort to the foreign enemies of the United States who have for decades been attempting to bring about an American civil war and disunion of the states. See one of many sich examples at:

Russian Wonk Predicts U.S. Civil War in 2010
Academic gets Kremlin love, becomes Russian media sensation thanks to his end-of-America scenario (spoiler alert: NYC to join European Union!)By Elizabeth Bougerol | Tuesday, Jul 7, 2009 | Updated 9:24 AM EST

The people who think they are just innocently shooting their mouths off to vent their anger had better rethink what theey are doing very very soberly. It is to be expected to see a number of fifth columnists helping to instigate and promote an American civil war and disunion. You won’t know which of these posters and/or petitioners they may be. So, it is up to each person to deecide whetheer they are going tto help the enemies of the United States seeking civil war and the manifold deaths that owuld result or help true Patriots in their struggle to protect and defend all of the United Sttates and its union.


14 posted on 11/11/2012 10:27:52 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

That’s all academic. The people voted to end the rule of law. The Constitution is no longer has legitimate authority.


16 posted on 11/11/2012 10:30:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: WhiskeyX
You are the only one talking Civil War my friend. And just so you know, the US cannot ever have another Civil War.There are dozens of very old still operating nuclear reactors across this country mainly concentrated in the north east. All these old reactors have significant design flaws and all still have hundreds of spent fuel rods near them. They are all similar to the reactors that melted down in Japan. During a conflict they can easily lose external power. Then they are on backup diesel generators. If they run out of diesel, the reactor melts down. All of that can easily happen during a civil war. So anyone advocating a Civil War is an enemy of our states.

We plan to leave peacefully and you will have no choice.

17 posted on 11/11/2012 10:39:28 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: WhiskeyX
Secondly, every person who participates in one of these petitions inciting treasonous secession is giving aid and comfort to the foreign enemies of the United States who have for decades been attempting to bring about an American civil war and disunion of the states,

Please lighten up! these petitions are meaningless venting. Geez. Those running our Federal government are laughing at Conservatives as the P*ss on the Constitution. They want us humiliated.

These petitions are signed by people who love our wonderful Constitution.

Please lighten up and relax.

Liberty will win in the end. I can't see how at this point, but it will. I have faith that most people will wake up from the Marxist nightmare and take the proper action.

33 posted on 11/11/2012 10:58:49 PM PST by sand88
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To: WhiskeyX

Good luck trying to talk some of these people down. What FDR did in the 30s and what LBJ, Nixon, Ford, and Carter did were worse. Unfortunatley, we may have to go through those conditions again to set the stage for a new Reagan/Thatcher revolution.


44 posted on 11/11/2012 11:32:36 PM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: WhiskeyX
First, the inciement to secede is treasonous.

Tell that to Thomas Jefferson.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another...

62 posted on 11/12/2012 3:47:54 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: WhiskeyX

“There is a lawful means by which a State may join and leave the union with the United States of America. None of these so-called petitions remotely complies with such Consitutional niceties.”

That is incorrect. There is nowhere in the Constitution whereby a State can leave the Union.

In fact, many would say that the Supreme Court decision in Texas vs. White made it clear: “In accepting original jurisdiction, the court ruled that Texas had remained a state ever since it first joined the Union, despite its joining the Confederate States of America and its being under military rule at the time of the decision in the case. In deciding the merits of the bond issue, the court further held that the Constitution did not permit states to unilaterally secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding states intended to give effect to such ordinances, were “absolutely null”.”


70 posted on 11/12/2012 5:15:44 AM PST by Nabber
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To: WhiskeyX
-- First, the inciement to secede is treasonous. --

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
That definition presupposes a united states in the first place, and an attempt to takeover ALL of them.

But, even if secession was treason, so what? The point is that those signing secession petitions view the federal government "dimly." If objection to the federal government is treason, well, then treason it is. Let the government wage war against its own people then.

76 posted on 11/12/2012 5:41:22 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: WhiskeyX

F you. If the country is run by communist/socialist types, the citizens have every right to fight. The founding fathers were very clear on that.


79 posted on 11/12/2012 5:46:58 AM PST by ohioman
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