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Is the Republican Party Dead or Dying? Part II
Dan Miller's Blog ^ | November 10, 2012 | Dan Miller

Posted on 11/10/2012 11:56:28 AM PST by DanMiller

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1 posted on 11/10/2012 11:56:35 AM PST by DanMiller
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I work with a lot of professional scientists and engineers (PhDs). These are sort of upper middle class white guys and gals and THEY view the Republican party as the party of rich white guys by which they mean the party of crony capitalists, Bush-type trust fund babies, and lasse-faire banking (helped out by federal reserve subsidies). Pro defense gets translated into pro defense contractor. And, remember how this downturn got started - Bush invaded Iraq and had to pay the economic costs - including the costs of buying off the democrats - to have that war.

Listen to Carl Rove through those eyes and tell me why they are wrong. Listen to Romney. Did he say very much about taking a scythe to government regulation to help out SMALL business?

The Republican party has to shake this image.

2 posted on 11/10/2012 12:09:18 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: DanMiller

I woud say the Dem Party is dead too. It’s becoming a no party system.


3 posted on 11/10/2012 12:11:29 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: DanMiller

This is getting ridiculous. The party, or the people, aren’t the problem. The problem is the completely corrupt media. Did you see what Candy Crowley did to Romney, it was outrageous and they got away with it. Have you seen the countless reports of voter fraud, and notice the silence is deafening? Do you see what Obama has done in Benghazi, and it’s business as usual? If the media is in bed with the enemy, we have no truth. If we have no truth, we will never succeed. We are living in an Orwellian nation/world at the level of China, just with a better standard of living. It has to end. Romney would have simply delayed and enabled this dysfunctional society to maintain the status quo longer. We have to hit bottom, economically and otherwise. It’s money that has the media bending over at will. God is in charge, and as promised, the proverbial manure will hit the hurricane, and peace will reign again. Own it, we lost the battle but we know who wins this war. Be happy, and loving towards the haters, that is the best revenge.


4 posted on 11/10/2012 12:14:27 PM PST by mgist
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To: DanMiller
It was, it, and always will be a two party system. Third parties failed in the past, fail now, and always will fail. If Teddy Roosevelt failed as a third party candidate, that route is beyond dead. Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode didn't get the job done either.

That leaves two viable options that both need to be used.

1. Be active in the Republican Party. Long term. That means more than just voting in primaries and generals, but attending the local meetings, becoming precinct delegates that pick party leadership, building relationships, and getting good folks elected. Not just president, but down ticket.

2. PACS. If you want to back conservatives, PAC's a good way to do it. Get involved in primaries and use the PACs to support the right people.

5 posted on 11/10/2012 12:19:31 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: DanMiller

The virtuous conservative and libertarian Americans are the opposition. We have no party that represents us.


I have not seen the public speech and advocacy of virtue tolerated from those claiming to be liberal-tarian. They look at virtue as “Christian conservative” oppression and hate it like the commies do. Cultural Marxism guarentees a population begging for economic Marxism.

America was not designed for a people who are ignorant of and reject Western ethics and morals. Libertarianism is a flawed ideology in it’s social mandate of public atheism and humanist moral relativity.

There is right and there is wrong. Wrong decisions result in consequences of suffering. Liberal-tarians like to think they all live in a bubble and won’t be affected by the those who choose to be or who are taught to live as degenerates by elitists, teachers and parents. That is a lie. Freedom can tolerate some retard degenerates in the allies but not the darkness of a top, down ordered humanist society creates. Humanist society is now voting itself the power to rob and attack their neighbors via their vote. It has no basis of comprehenion for the constitution’s ideals and responsibilities.

The constitution had religious freedom for Christians for a reason. Their speech of virtue was not intended to be banned by the courts and governments from the public schools and public square. It was the main source of virtue (ie, the ten commandments) for the majority of people and served the constitution’s need for mutual respect (for human life), independence and responsibility.

Too late now. Liberals won a generation. Many are in the libertarian party.


6 posted on 11/10/2012 12:21:38 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: DanMiller

You live in Panama? What state is that in? If you want me to take you seriously, then come back to the US. Otherwise, you’re just another outsider.


7 posted on 11/10/2012 12:50:15 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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It can sometimes be a good thing to get an outside perspective on things.


8 posted on 11/10/2012 1:07:29 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: DanMiller

Once you realize you’re already dead, it’s easier to face what needs to be done.


9 posted on 11/10/2012 1:07:51 PM PST by optiguy (Winter is coming.)
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To: AndyJackson

Andy you hang up with a lot of intelligent people. They have the GOP figured out. Those that haven’t still think Kenya is part of Hawaii. As Reagan used to say ‘I didn’t leave the Democrat party, they left me’. Today there are some 3,000,000+ saying the same thing about the Republican party, maybe Reagan would also. This is not Reagan’s GOP.


10 posted on 11/10/2012 1:11:45 PM PST by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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It's not a GOP thing. You've got an ever increasing population of the Takers of Society, and an ever increasing amount of free stuff given to them by the Dems.
As Rush has said - how the hell can you beat a party that keeps running Santa Claus for office?
11 posted on 11/10/2012 1:14:48 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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“... Rush has said - how . . . can you beat a party that keeps running Santa Claus for office?” BARACK O’CLAUS

Yeah; and the answer is NOT “out-Santa Clausing Santa Claus” either!!


12 posted on 11/10/2012 1:24:41 PM PST by Twinkie (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.)
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To: oh8eleven

This is why America is doomed.

We have passed the tipping point of freeloaders and the politicians vying for their votes. It is now just a viscious cycle. The only unknown is how long it takes for the USA to collapse under the weight of the takers. But the end is certain. We collapse.

America died in 2008, we just didn’t know it yet. The poison was consumed in the 1960s and it is taking hold today.

We are done. Enjoy the end as much as you can. There is nothing left to fight for.

Pray to God and apologize to your children.


13 posted on 11/10/2012 1:44:11 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Pray to God. Apologize to your children. America is doomed.)
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The GOP has to recognize that for better or worse, DEM lite candidates in the form of moderates, can’t be force fed to the base. Unfortunately, if Boehner’s comments regarding “There is not Tea Party caucus” is the view of how the party is going to proceed, then it is dead.

3 million voters less than McCain? Seriously? In what was called the most important election in our lifetime? Something went horribly wrong. I would suggest the basic reason is the base of informed voters were tired of being fed a milquetoast diet of moderate pablum and decided to say ‘No thanks’. Give us a real conservative in 2016 and watch what happens. But if Boehner as gatekeeper til then is the best the GOP can offer maybe it’s time go Galt and let the whole d**n thing burn.


14 posted on 11/10/2012 1:48:20 PM PST by Tghtie Rightie (It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds.)
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I agree with #14 except for allowing it to burn.

Regardless, I believe that the communists will not cut government agencies or social programs. Instead, they will opt for inflation.

I believe that the country will stand for inflation that reduces living standards by 50%, if done gradually, because people will not put cause and effect together.

Whether hyperinflation will be enough to keep the enterprise afloat, I don’t know.


15 posted on 11/10/2012 1:59:29 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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The GOP-e with the RNC mismanmaged this campaign from the very beginning. I gave my support for Romney only because I believe Obama will destroy our country in his second term.

No more. Enough... I have contempt for all of the GOP-e and their pundits. Carl Rove has done enough damage to our country already. No more Bushes. I had no idea GW’s wife was such a liberal.

They ignored the real issues and failed miserably by NOT ATTACKING Obama for his Marxist-communist agenda.


16 posted on 11/10/2012 2:11:17 PM PST by Enough is ENOUGH (Let's have the inevitable crash now... The longer we wait, the worse it will be...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

No, you’re right. As long as there’s a working printing press the entitlements will flow with the caveat that the Boehner led House will not stop it in the name of bi-partisanship. Given the Speaker’s comments in the last few days I’m not encouraged.

As for hyperinflation (in a possibly too easy example to make) I’d point to the Weimar Republic as our immediate future. What happens next is the only question.


17 posted on 11/10/2012 2:19:39 PM PST by Tghtie Rightie (It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds.)
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To: oh8eleven
how the hell can you beat a party that keeps running Santa Claus for office?

There's a reason why only landowners were allowed to vote... those with no significant contribution should have no voice in how it is spent.

18 posted on 11/10/2012 2:58:46 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: DanMiller
Cain said it would take money, leadership and at least 50 coalitions to create a viable third political party.
“You need one for every state because of the whacky rules state by state that they have that make it difficult for a third party to emerge,” he said.

Nothing "whacky" about it. The two parties colluded extensively after Perot to prevent 3rd parties from gaining traction. It is quite deliberate and intentional. There are reasons why a Congress with a 9% approval rating regularly has over 93% of incumbents re-elected.

19 posted on 11/10/2012 3:03:49 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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Moderate Romney failed to take ANY voters from the Left, even in his own state. The GOP must drop this repeatedly failed tactic, and concentrate on getting the base (about 40 million), getting the independents (about 30 million), and getting registered voters who didn't vote (about 40 million). Trying to siphon off 5-10 million Dem votes by running to satisfy the MSM clearly doesn't grab a single vote.

(Going after voter fraud methods a year or two before election time might help drop 5-10 million votes from the other side of the ledger, as well.)

20 posted on 11/10/2012 3:12:59 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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