Wagon Train to the Stars: How the American Frontier Experience Created Modern Science Fiction

http://www.thefreehold.us ^ | October 30 2012 | Jonathan Baird

[Sirius Lee]

“Wagon train to the stars” was the verbatim pitch Gene Roddenberry used to the network execs to get Star Trek on the air.

[brivette]

anyone remember ee doc smith and the gray lensmen?

[reg45]

Yes. It would be considered sexist today, but it was fun to read.

[Gideonwoulfe]

That was the reason for the title, although I did not get around to discussing Star Trek in this article. Trek is certainly one of the American Scifi shows that owes its existence to the Frontier Mythos.

[SC_Pete]

And now Obama has closed space. What outlet is left for the American, frontiering spirit now? Obama’s solution is to eradicate individualism.

[The Great RJ]

Prior to creating Star Trek, Gene Roddenbery wrote scripts for several TV Westerns

[Boogieman]

Nobody’s closed space. If you want to go, build yourself a rocket and go. Just don’t ask the rest of us to waste our money on a pipe dream.

Maybe when one of our probes finds, you know, some planet we could breathe on, or a mountain of gold out there, I’ll change my tune. Until then, we’re better off colonizing Antarctica or the ocean floor. They may not be as romantic, but they are just as much frontiers, and a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to conquer.

[Young Werther]

Dr Gerad K O'Neil wrote "The High Frontier The Human Conquest of Space" updated Turners Frontier thesis. He proposed that Space Exploration should be self funding.

He proposed that the Moon should be colonized just as the America's in the 15th to 19th centuries.

The lunar material would be used to build factories, mine lunar materials which would be launched into space where L-5 satellites/manuafacturing facilites would be built. You'll find a larger explanation at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Oneill

He does look like Spack without the pointy ears!

Steve Jobs took a $535.00 space item off the shelf and created 30 million JOBS in the 20th century. All from a piece of space stuff that the government had no use for. Obama cancells the space program because he wants to improve education, create jobs and improve the GDP. To bad he doesn't understand the past!

[Young Werther]

1939 and Orson Welles broadcasst “War of the Worlds” on the radio as a Halloween Scary Treat. Unforunately the braodcast was incomplete in certain portions of NJ where the Martian Landing had supposedly occurred. Riots, Suicides and great commotioons occurred as the “Martians Walked towards New York City.
More damage than “Sandy”?

[pepsi_junkie]

Trek is certainly one of the American Scifi shows that owes its existence to the Frontier Mythos.

I'd say yes and no. It was sold as "Wagon Train" to the stars, but not in the generic sense of an old west wagon train set in space but rather as a reference to a popular anthology style TV western of the time "Wagon Train". It implies an ensemble cast of characters and guest characters that show up for one week only. The group moves along and encounters different situations and guest stars in self contained episodes.

So the pitch was not so much about the idea of it being a space western as it was about following the formula of another successful show.

[Oztrich Boy]

Time and again American fiction would probe the new frontier of space carrying with it a cowboy mentality only now dressed up in a spacesuit instead of a stetson and carrying his trusty ray-gun instead of a colt.

Yes, this is exactly what Science Fiction is all about

[Bernard Marx]

anyone remember ee doc smith and the gray lensmen?

I remember being "busted" in 9th-grade study hall by Mrs. Pettingill, who caught me reading "Children of the Lens." My copy of "Astounding Science-Fiction" was hidden inside a Joseph Conrad novel. I was severely chastised for reading such pulp "trash."

Yeah, I was merely learning mind-stretching scientific and sociological concepts that Mrs. Pettingill never dreamed of. I read -- and enjoyed -- Joseph Conrad later on.

[SC_Pete]

Take the high ground. Before someone else does. Like Russia and now China.

[discostu]

We’ve had this discussion at the SF con I help put together (and we’re over due to have it again, gotta remember to get it on next year’s list). What it generally boils down to that the “frontier” structure gives you a few handy things from a story perspective:
you have a large unknown to work with, something with which the reader is unfamiliar so you can fill in whatever you want
you have isolation from support, when protagonists can call for the unlimited backup available in a “civilized” world you lose a lot of drama
it’s an environment we expect larger than life characters taking bold actions, ie heroes

Fiction outside of SF and westerns generally has to put things in place to cause those elements. From rainstorms knocking out phone lines and roads, to forests, to smart bad guys that force a situation support cannot enter. A frontier gives you all that for free.

[Boogieman]

What, do you want to withdraw from the treaties saying we can’t put weapons on satellites? Otherwise, I don’t know what else you are talking about. It’s not like an uninhabitable rock millions of miles away poses some key strategic position we need to secure.

[SC_Pete]

Gee, the one thing Jack Kennedy got right and you deny him even that. RAT hater!

[tanknetter]

“Wagon train to the stars” was the verbatim pitch Gene Roddenberry used to the network execs to get Star Trek on the air.

Bear in mind that Roddenberry saw Star Trek as a trojan horse. Sell it as "Wagon Train to the stars" to win network sponsorship, but then load the actual show down with explicit and implicit social commentary.

Looking back, Star Trek (original series, anyways) ended up being a lot lighter on the social commentary than Roddenberry intended. Which is why it continues to appeal to people across the ideological spectrum. Conservatives see "Wagon Train to the stars", while Liberals get their social commentary fix.

[Nepeta]

Prior to creating Star Trek, Gene Roddenbery wrote scripts for several TV Westerns

He wrote all kinds of scripts, including two episodes of Shannon (1961) about the cases of an insurance investigator--Deforest Kelley appeared in one of these episodes.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Gideonwoulfe.