Posted on 10/29/2012 6:00:47 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
The official story surrounding the events of September 11, 2012 in Bengzahi, Libya which left four Americans dead, has now officially fallen apart.
After numerous flips and flops by the Obama administration, which originally attempted to paint the incident as a Muslim outcry over an anti-Islamic video, whistle blowers throughout the U.S. government, including within the White House, the State Department, national intelligence agencies and the U.S.military have made available stunning details that suggest not only did operational commanders have live visual and audio communications from drones overhead and intelligence assets on the ground, but that some commanders within the military were prepared to go-it-alone after being told to “stand down.”
Africom commanding officer U.S. General Carter Ham, after being ordered to essentially surrender control of the situation to alleged Al Queda terrorists and let Americans on the ground die, made the unilateral decision to ignore orders from the Secretary of Defense and activated special operations teams at his disposal for immediate deployment to the area.
According to reports, once the General went rogue he was arrested within minutes by his second in command and relieved of duty.
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“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
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The question now is whether the American people will hold to account the chain of command responsible for leaving our people behind, fabricating a politically expedient story, and continuing to sell the now defunct lie(s) even after all of their variations of the story were found to be false and misleading.
A General who made the decision to assist diplomatic and intelligence assets on the ground has been arrested and will likely be retired or worse, while those who ordered the removal of embassy security details and ordered U.S. forces to stand-down are left to go on about their business and likely risk more American lives in the future.
In some circles the actions of those at the very top of the command structure during the Bengzahi attacks would be considered traitorous.
E-mails??? Whoever wrote this has no idea how special forces communicate with their commanders, especially during crisis.
General Carter Ham (USA) was and still is the Commander of US Africa Command. His second in command was and is Vice Admiral Leidig (USN) - not another general, as claimed in a similar, earlier report. While it is true that Obama has since nominated LtGen David Rodriguez to succeed General Ham as the new commander of USAFRICOM, that nomination awaits Senate confirmation and LtGen Rodriguez remains in his current billet at the head of US Army Forces Command at Ft. Bragg. General Ham remains in command of USAFRICOM in Stuttgart.
If it is true that VAdm Leidig indeed arrested General Ham, it would have been on the direct order of the President - and I doubt that the general would still remain in command almost 7 weeks later. This situation is bad enough without taking it to the looney level.
What type of rational do we file this under?
Is Gen Ham in custody?
I think you’re missing an L. (Though perhaps you did that intentionally to make it less likely the NSA would pick up the reference.)
the basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on, without having some real time information about what’s taking place.
I am not sure about that basic principle...you had people under attack. You were watching them and apparently in some sort of communication, Mr. Wood I understand, was painting targets and waiting for missle strikes.
WTF??
You telling me that a humvee under attack in Afghanistan is left to go it alone because you don’t know the situation?
It all stinks.
But I would like to hear from General Ham.
This story came out 9/12 and said Marines were deployed:
This story came out 9/12 and said Marines were deployed:
It may or may not be true.
Get Obama & company under oath and ask them. Right?
Ham may have been offered the golden parachute to stay quiet.
Here’s the guy that showed up with troops. NSAID it was an organized attack. Was fired.
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20120918136604
Sounds very true and fits exactly into the scenario.
I have not seen anything indicating that.
At this level, I doubt if he were removed it would be discussed openly. Because of the political ramifications for Obozo.
Is the rumor true? Not sure.
I have seen some evidence posted here and on another thread that indicate it may be wrong info, or partially wrong info.
At this point it would not upset me if the Moderator removed this post.
TF
I had the same question;
I think the headline goes too far.
He'd be relieved of command on orders from someone up his chain of command,
not arrested.
(Although I'd expect some muscle in the area when his #2 broke the news.)
The questions now are (1) will he go quietly or will he continue to stand up?
(2) What will not going quietly cost him?
(3)Will Pertreaus take the fall for Panetta/Clinton/Hussein?
Report:
Is a U.S. general losing his job over Benghazi?
http://times247.com/articles/is-a-general-losing-his-job-over-benghazi#ixzz2Ak9iQcQf
Okay, enlighten us, was it Morse Code, Siper, Niper, Semaphore flags or what.
I will never understand why they name blogs such things as “The Daily Sheeple”
Such great research and info...then they name the blog something that makes it look like anything BUT a credible source when shared.
I am pretty sure I heard Glenn Beck say that the General is stepping down in order to care for his wife who is very ill. But I was not listening for long. Maybe someone else did.
It didn’t need a tag. It was obvious.
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