Joel Gilbert Really Is Lying To You (Dreams From My Real Father)

Barackryphal ^ | 10/06/12 | Loren Collins

[Tex-Con-Man]

The entire series...

• #7: Gilbert's "Mockumentaries"
• #6: The Omniscient Joel Gilbert
• #5: Joel Gilbert's Phantom Evidence
• #4: Family Portraits
• #3: Factual Failings
• #2: "Anne" vs. Ann
• #1: The Nude Photos Debunked

[newheart]

You are a brave soul. I can recall simply arguing that the interview with brother George in Desouza’s film completely convinced me that Frank Marshall Davis is definitely not related to Barack Obama (at least genetically) and got flamed over it.

Keep up the good work. There is so much to despise about this administration and the cabal that installed him, that there is absolutely no reason to make stuff up.

[MHGinTN]

Is Loren still a homo?

[Tex-Con-Man]

Why? ...you lookin’ for a date?

[Blogger]

FMD is the ideological father of BO, if not his biological father.

[MHGinTN]

Your ‘response’ illustrates why Loren is not to be taken seriously: I made an oblique accusation, to which you responded without addressing the ‘accusation’. Loren has done the same thing in his ‘faux’ analysis of the Gilbert ‘obliquatory acusations’. Thanks for your participation in showing why Loren is dus no credulity any more than Gilbert is due any of the same. Little barry bastard faggot commie depends upon a dissonance factor in order to prevent the truth of his natality from being seen. Do you really want to help him?

[Tex-Con-Man]

Do you believe FMD is Obama's real father? Some here do. If so, point out the flaws in Loren's analysis. Personal attacks don't count.

[maine-iac7]

ahahahah

It's NOT the house but WE are not going to back up our claim with any evidence - just take our word for it ‘cause we say so.

I found the Gilbert documentary to be pretty seamless - and the evidence has ALL been out there - in pieces - for anyone who has been paying attention.

Gilbert took all those puzzle pieces and completed the picture. It was DAVIS who was intricately tied up with the Dunham family - who took the photos - (BTW, did I miss where this writer disproves that the photos ARE of Ann? - that’;s the salient question.) .

It was Davis who was the prominent male figure in ‘bummer's life, his teacher/companion/mentor through high school - it was to Davis's Chicago circle of communists that ‘bummer was folded into...and it is THEIR cause that he was programmed to carry out. He is a PPP - Pretty Programmed Puppet who has his two commie handlers at his side - predominantly Vallerie - hard core commie (daddy and Davis friends)who introduced mooseShell and bummer and it is Vallerie who is the real power, makes the decisions, in the O office.

It is the facial similarities, structure, to Davis (I'm a portrait artist, trained in familial characteristics - he has NO similarities to the Kenyan.) He did inherit the longer face from the Dunham side, but the underlying muscle structure that results in unique expressions, is striking. And unless Ann had a twin, it's quite evident that Davis's model is the daughter of his friend, Stanley D.

Gilbert has handed us the puzzle box top - with the whole picture - so we can see how the box full of pieces fit together.

The bummer camp have tried desperately to scrub this documentary from being seen...the producers were wise enough to first send out millions of copies to the public so that when their links are shut down and the YouTube clips are scrubbed over and over, new ones pop up. They can't contain it. So they're trying to discredit it. Hopefully, people will actually WATCH the film before swallowing the flimsy rhetoric of the spin-doctors tasked with damage control. There isn[t much in the film that can't be found if one does due diligence, even WITH the massive scrub-machine that has been on overtime ever since - or before - bummer took office.

[Tex-Con-Man]

Unlike Gilbert's hackumentary, this is a well researched and serious look at FMD and his relationship with Obama...

In his memoir, Barack Obama omits the full name of his mentor, simply calling him “Frank.” Now, the truth is out: Never has a figure as deeply troubling and controversial as Frank Marshall Davis had such an impact on the development of an American president.

Although other radical influences on Obama, from Jeremiah Wright to Bill Ayers, have been scrutinized, the public knows little about Davis, a card-carrying member of the Communist Party USA, cited by the Associated Press as an “important influence” on Obama, one whom he “looked to” not merely for “advice on living” but as a “father” figure.

[Tex-Con-Man]

Apparently you haven't read the entire series (See post #1).

The author addresses the photo and proves it couldn't be Stanley Ann Dunham.

Read through all 7 and get back to me.

[maine-iac7]

Thanks for posting that.

T's crossed, I’s dotted

glad I'm not the only one in here who's is not swallowing the flimsy damage control rhetoric.

Gilbert's documentary is pretty seamless - the puzzle pieces fitted together into the whole picture.

[SeminoleCounty]

Anyone who has seen photos of George Obama pretty much realizes that FM Davis is not Obama’s father....George and Barack Jr look so much alike...which would confirm that Barack Sr is Jr’s father.

Also, most of the “FM Davis is Obama’s Father” folks are as “Anti-Birther as MSNBC and some in the GOP Media. To prove that FM Davis is really Obama’s father....you still need that Real Hawaii Birth Certificate. The FM Davis-Obama Father crowd seems to be a covert front for Liberals and RINOs to try to keep the Obama Eligibility folks from gaining more support

[Doc Savage]

As a biologist I find your stupid assumption exactly that. I didn’t realize that you had run DNA profiles on each of these morons. Yes, your insane assumption clearly settles the issue. Geeze!

[SeminoleCounty]

As a biologist I find your stupid assumption exactly that. I didn’t realize that you had run DNA profiles on each of these morons. Yes, your insane assumption clearly settles the issue. Geeze!

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Actually, you would not need an education to figure out that George Obama and Barack Jr look so much alike....Barack Sr is the same father. FM Davis is not Obama’s father.

Judging by your response to my post...I can tell you have little education....so there is hope yet for you to figure this out

[giotto]

I was also stunned by the traits shared by both Barack and George Obama. But the reason for that is obvious: FMD is also George’s father. Or maybe Ann Dunham is his mother. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

[newheart]

Yeah, that’s the ticket.

LOL.

[Col Freeper]

1) If I were to post pictures of the inside of Jack's house, there would be no way for me to prove to readers that it actually was the inside of *Jack's* house. It could just as easily be the interior of some other house. Such an objection would certainly be inevitable from people who want to believe Gilbert; if they don't trust my account of Jack, they're not going to trust the pictures either.

2) Even if it were conceded that the photos did indeed depict the house at 2994 Kalihi, the next inevitable objection would be that he and I had simply omitted pictures of some part of the house. A particular room, or even just a particular angle of a room. So once again, people would find a reason to conclude the pictures were unsatisfactory.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but in this era of digital movie cameras and YouTube, why would still photos be argued for/against?

A movie starting with the house owner, showing the house exterior and address, followed by a complete house walk-through would be a better product to argue "it's not this house", wouldn't it?

[Tex-Con-Man]

The burden would fall to Gilbert to provide the videos and photos he claims to have, to prove it is the house.

[DiogenesLamp]

Referring to Tex Con Man
You are a brave soul.

Brave my @ss. He's just an obstinate sob. He dismisses proof before the fact of it being proven false.

It turns out he appears to be correct regarding Gilbert, though one is not normally accustomed to hearing lies from Conservatives, that tends to be a tactic of the Liberal side of the Aisle.

[DiogenesLamp]

Joel Gilbert. He lies to his research subjects about who he works for. He lies about what he's researching and why. And he lies about his findings to his audience.

Of his activities, only the last do I fault him for. James O'keefe told Acorn people he was a pimp trying to import under aged girls for prostitution. Had he told the truth, he would have gotten no-where.

The tactic of lying to people to get a story is a well respected tactic throughout all of mainstream journalism. Lying to your audience is not.