Posted on 09/29/2012 5:53:03 AM PDT by no-llmd
The Libertarian/Tea Party insurgent voting bloc of 2010, that swept the GOP into office in mind boggling historic numbers, is still out there in force. But this bloc is resistant to being sampled in the polls, and this causes the polls to be skewed towards Obama.
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Current sign on the back of my truck:
Vote For The American
Tomorrow I’m switching it to:
Keep Working! There Are Millions Of Parasites Counting On You
"Understanding" doesn't make as much noise as hundreds if thousands of marchers waving flags and home made posters, even that noise didn't arouse the news media then, no wonder they misread the silence now.
You see, "Understanding" is quiet. There are millions of us that graduated from the TEA PARTY UNIVERSITY. We don't make a lot if noise now, but we quietly UNDERSTAND and know what we must do to save the country. We will be there at the polling places, in greater numbers than in 2010 because we have also educated those near to us, the ultimate grass roots effort. For the media, it will be "unexpected" and a "strange happening" something they "did not see coming." This may well be the LOUDEST LANDSLIDE ever and directly attributable the "silent" majority.
The media has declared us dead, so no coverage and no threat. They have no idea of the numbers of millions if us who will decide this election. We are not in their stories, their polls or even their thoughts. There is an army if voters coming to the polls they don't even see coming. The lack of reporting and skewed polls is the ultimate proof, I need no more. Join the landslide, be on the WINNING side for a change. It's OUR turn at bat.
...resistant to polls...
No kidding. I'm so tired of pollsters that when someone says "I'm taking a poll" I press the "OFF" button on my phone. Reflex. I do not participate in unofficial straw polls any more. I'll participate in the one poll that counts. (I live in Nevada, which may explain the frequency of pollsters calling.)
I'm fed up with the coverage of this "contest" as a horse-race and a parade of cheap shots. Both candidates are short on facts and long on snipe. And reading Free Republic has dropped on my daily priority list because many of the commenters here on political articles are sloganeers, not thoughtful writers. (By the way, Politico is just as bad, just the wind blows in a different direction there.)
The worst of the sniping and selective presentation is in the editorial cartoons. Yes, some of them are funny, but the majority of them represent a particular point of view to the exclusion of everything else. So I'll enjoy the funnies, but discount the message as vacuous and incomplete. The panels about the NFL replacement refs was more balanced, fair, accurate -- and funny -- than the majority of the political panels.
I have yet to see a good, accurate side-by-side comparison of the positions of the two campaigns. Of course, the mainstream media is more interested in reporting things that move papers and magazines and attract eardrums and eyeballs, not providing the electorate good, concise reporting of the unbiased facts. That include Limbaugh, Beck, Drudge, and their ilk, by the way. It's what they don't report that's the problem.
Being accurate and unbiased doesn't sell, apparently. And whose fault is that?
So this independent is not going to be sampled outside of a voting booth.
The Tea Parties are a social club. Their infighting and sniping during the primaries wounded whichever candidate the GOP would have nominated. For the sake of purity I expect they will stay home on Nov 7 handing the House and Senate into Democrat control. There is a reason that all the pollsters are showing a vastly superior turnout for the Democrats, because the “pure of heart” have indicated that they are at best reluctant voters but are tending to stay home.
One think I want to say about polls even though I do not think it is statistically significant.
I see a lot of people here who say if a pollster calls them, they lie to them.
Now, I used to do survey work, so this kind of annoys me, but what I really want to say is I hope those are not the same people who then complain about polls being inaccurate.
It is pretty clear that a lot of the recent polls are WAY off in terms of the party allocation.
But look at all the other lies the media is telling this election season.
I’m sure everyone here realizes that if Obama were a republican we would have seen our poor murdered Ambassador’s body being dragged through the streets every morning noon and night since it happened. (OK, for his family I’m glad this isn’t happening, but that is not the point.)
The deceitful MSM isn’t even reporting on the ongoing protests at our embassies.
The administration treated their own guy, THEIR OWN GUY, like he was chopped liver.
They sent Susan Rice out to lie to our faces. And she did it. She should resign, but it is too late, she should have resigned when asked to lie to the American people.
Maybe she even believed the BS story about the video. But how in God’s name she could go on national TV and maintain the security was “adequate” after 4 people were brutally murdered is beyond me.
Sorry, if you house gets robbed your security wasn’t “adequate”.
I keep saying this, but this election is no longer about Obama and Romney, it is about the media who are actively betraying the public’s trust.
Pat Cadell is 100% correct about this.
The media must be slapped down good and hard in November. If not it will only be a matter of time until we have a true dictator running this country. Be it Barack Obama or some future “god” anointed by the media.
Sorry, got a little OT on my rant.
“It is odd how libertarians viciously criticize Republicans but give the Kenyan Impostor a pass.”
That has been a “normal” since I joined Free Republic.
Regardless of how bad the rats in power or seeking power are $crewing this country, the Republicans get blamed by certain Freepers. After a decade of this bs, I just ignore it.
He hates you,
He hates me,
That’s why there is a Tea Party,
With a nick-knack paddy-whack,
Obama has no back bone,
In November we’ll send him home!
And here I thought I was the only one who hung up on pollsters!
Being accurate and unbiased doesn't sell, apparently. And whose fault is that?
My take is that while it is possible and desirable to attempt to be objective, it is not possible to know that you actually are objective. And that attempting objectivity must start with self-examination - a conscientious effort to be open and above-board about ones own incentives and motives.But that leads directly to a caveat: if you claim that you are objective, you are rejecting the need to examine your own motives, and you are stating as a fact something which, in the nature of things, it is impossible for you to know. So if I hear you declaring your own objectivity - or, still worse, if I see that you belong to an organization which claims objectivity for you - I have to recognize that you not only are not objective, you are self-deluded or else consciously tendentious. Objectivity which is self-declared is an oxymoron.
It is not far to look to find organizations which claim objectivity for their members; every major newspaper or broadcaster claims objectivity for its reporters and editors, and every wire service or broadcast network claims objectivity for its member newspapers and broadcast stations. This directly leads to conformity masquerading as objectivity. The fractious independence for which newspapers of the founding era and up to the Civil War were noted is no more. Killed, IMHO, by the Associated Press (which started in the middle of the Nineteenth Century).
Since it is not really legitimate to judge someones objectivity by their claim of objectivity, its necessary to evaluate any commentary on the basis of what we know of the interests and motives of the commenter. Thus a Rush Limbaugh, who doesnt claim objectivity but is openly conservative, may in reality actually be relatively objective - especially when compared to the pseudo-objectivity of journalism.
From my POV, liberals - and moderates and as well - are simply people whom pseudo-objective journalists give positive labels to. And conservatives, right wingers, - you name it - are simply people whom the pseudo-objective journalists seek to marginalize. IMHO progressives seek to minimize the credit which accrues to people who actually provide goods and services which we-the-people want and need. And to promote themselves in the process. See, you didnt build that. Such people get positive labels from pseudo-objective journalists for the simple reason that journalists are engaged in exactly the same behavior, and they therefore find common ground.
“Join the landslide, be on the WINNING side for a change. It’s OUR turn at bat.”
Excellent, I couldn’t agree more. I don’t think many patriotic Americans will be sitting home come November 6th.
AB0 ‘12!!!
“There is a reason that all the pollsters are showing a vastly superior turnout for the Democrats, because the pure of heart have indicated that they are at best reluctant voters but are tending to stay home.”
The reason the “pollsters” are doing that is to suppress Republican turnout.
Nice demonstration of “useful idiot” behavior, Mike. ;-)
1850 America would have been lynching libertarians pushing homosexual marriage, abortion, polygamy, open advertising and selling of porn, prostitution, homosexualizing the military and adoption, homosexual teachers and youth leaders, etc., not praising their traditional Americanism. Libertarians and the left have made their imprint in the last 60 years.
I have never been polled. Vote in every election, large and small and have never once received one call. Now that we don’t have land lines in the house, I don’t expect to ever get a call either.
Who are the useful idiots? Instead of playing little games they should come out for GOP candidates loud, strong and now.
I actually don’t know that much about the formal “Libertarian” Party, but I consider myself an economic libertarian (small “l”), similar to Milton Friedman. There was little that he stood for that I didn’t agree with.
The only thing going for Romney is that he’s not Obama. That’s enough for me. Hope it’s enough for enough other folks.
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