Posted on 09/27/2012 10:28:51 AM PDT by diamond6
A conversation between my husband and a FReeper who wants to sit out the election because he doesn't like Romney:
"See, I believe that we are already past the tipping point.”
You really are naive. Nothing worse can happen, huh?
How about those hefty taxes that are planned for the “rich” (really small businesses) in January? Think that might possibly cause our economy to get even worse by increasing the jobless?
How about the $1 trillion dollar debt (conservatively estimated) for the next fiscal year’s budget and every year’s budget thereafter?
How about the disregard and attacking of the rights of all religious institutions, who will be forced to pay for something they believe is morally wrong? Do you think quite possibly Catholic hospitals and facilities might possibly go out of business?
How about the actual implementation of Obama Care, which will devalue our way of life, drive doctors out of the business, bankrupt insurance companies, and cause skyrocketing premiums?
How about the complete collapse of our economy, which will likely result in unprecented skyrocketing inflation rates and quite possibly a depression that we have never ever seen the likes of?
What about the complete disregard of any and all pro-life protections - babies, the elderly (euthanasia - they won’t be needed anymore?
How about the removal of any moral values for our country at all?
How about World War III in the Middle East, the annihiliation of Israel, and a nuclear holocaust there as well, with the fear of dirty bombs in this country?
How about the removal of all our rights - free speech, freedom of religion, right to bear arms through Obama executive order fiats?
How about the replacement of our conservative judges with ultra liberal anti-Constitutionalists?
How about a Communistic-style of government that will lead us to the point of no return?
Your no vote is a vote for Communism. Congratulations on your “principled” approach. And you’re doing that to teach the party “a lesson”? There won’t be a 2016 election to turn to, after Obama gets done.
You and others like you have no genuine concern or accountability for our country at all.
“if we get Rom in, its not like Reagan, we won’t like many things...we’ll be mad many times.”
Oh heck ya. That is a given. I’ll take a man with character like Romney over the (*&% we have now any day and deal with the rest as it comes up.
What really needs to be done is a complete change in the congressional leadership. That is where the problem is.
LOL!!!! talk about tortured logic!
So when all collapses and even more people are broke and destitute you think some magical conservative unifying messiah is going to descend and pick up the pieces?
Talk about clincal psychosis.
That's funny actually. Because most of Christendom in America not only sat on their collective arses and let evil prevail in our culture to the point that an Obama was inevitable, but they actually insist we tolerate, capitulate, compromise with and VOTE for the same evil that made Obama possible.
I'll be doing plenty to stand against evil. One of them is not compromising my faith and principles by voting for what is expedient because I have no choice.
An election, and a corrupted one at that, is not the way in which a person can stand against evil in this time. I'm thinking past November.
No, I never said any such thing. I'm saying that if these socialists lead our nation into a collapse, and the people, not some leader, but the people do not rise up and do their duty to set this nation right, then we deserve whatever tyrannical bastards we allow to rule over us. After all, we would have abandoned our duty as a people to police our own government, and so we cannot therefore claim that we don't deserve to be in such a position.
That being said, you might want to be sure you actually comprehend what folks are saying before you cast about your amateurish psychological diagnoses. I mean, you're probably going to get them all wrong anyway, but you might at least have a chance at being correct if you listened to what people say and understood them correctly.
Reagan must be rolling in his grave to see a Marxist ensconced as President of the United States.
Impossible to believe he'd advise us to just roll over and give Obama a second term when the choice is between a Marxist with a very peculiar, mysterious, un-American background vs. a liberal-leaning American Republican candidate with business acumen and a patriotic outlook. Reagan was a pragmatist as well a conservative.
That’s unfortunate. I haven’t followed these threads that much during the primaries I was aware it was very heated and too much name calling, insults as you said. We’re not the DUmp so we should know better. Having said all that, still have 45 days to consider what is best for this country. Hopefully in this analysis, you may come to some realization that perhaps Romney is the best we can do to save us from Obama now or perhaps not. And with solid conservatives in the house and senate, we can keep Mitt on a short leash - that is my optimistic hope. Every vote does count.
Well, God bless your little heart.
THANK YOU BlatherNaut. Your words are clear and make perfect sense.
Arguing with these folks is just like trying to talk to trolls (which I believe a number of them ARE).
Are you suggesting God would want me to vote for a Pro Abortion candidate. How about gay marriage. Infringing on religious freedom. Same sex adoptions. These are all evil. These are all issues Romney supports. Voting for Romney is not intervening it is supporting evil.
“I had a range of acceptable candidates from Ron Paul to Perry to Bachman, to Gingrich, any of which I could vote for in the general.”
That was the problem with the primary. We say Romney was shoved down our throats, but we had half a dozen conservative alternatives to Romney who split the conservative vote. Each candidate selfishly and stubburnly stayed in the race, putting their egos ahead of the country. We needed a “tea party primary” of sorts to select someone to run against the establishment candidate. We blew it. We have no room to complain now.
“If they won’t listen to us in the primaries, they don’t get our votes in the general.
Do-over in 2016.” congratulations where would you like your Obamaphone sent?
You are making assumptions that the people will become more conservative and right leaning when it collapses.
What is your evidence of this?
“Thank you for your opinion.”
Thank you for being civil.
“I will not vote for EITHER socialist.”
I take it you must be a true conservative with “principals”, unlike the rest of us fake conservatives who do not have “principals”.
“True conservatives with principals” + “Progressives” = Death of USA
“So the party that puts forth CONSERVATIVE positions and candidates gets my vote.”
So let me see if I understand this. If no party ever puts forth a “conservative” under YOUR definition of a conservative, and there’s an election between, say, Romney and a latter-day Hitler (or Mao or Stalin), you’d sit out the election? You know, I bet you would!
“True conservatives with principals” + “Progressives” = Death of the USA
“You are making assumptions that the people will become more conservative and right leaning when it collapses.”
Huh? When did I ever say such a thing? All I’m saying is that, if we let socialists lead us off the cliff, and then don’t toss those socialists overboard and right the ship, then we deserve the socialists. I make no assumptions as to whether that will happen or not, or what is more likely to happen in such a scenario.
Maybe you should stop trying to set up straw men and actually read what people write.
My principal doesn’t allow me to vote!
He’s correct. If you like taking it in the rear “just a little” instead of a lot.
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