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Threatening Letter Sent to 60,000 Ministers About Election
Mario Murillo Ministries ^ | 9-25-12

Posted on 09/25/2012 4:57:07 PM PDT by kingattax

Actual Letter at LINK


TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: barrylynn; threatenschurches; warnschurches
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Barry Lynn -- fake 'minister' and real leftist sockpuppet
1 posted on 09/25/2012 4:57:09 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Barry Lynn is no more a Christian than Barack Obama.


2 posted on 09/25/2012 4:59:42 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: kingattax

Wonder how Jeremiah Wright’s church took that letter. Wonder how it resonated with the Nation of Islam? What about all the leftie churches out there? Sauce for the goose ....


3 posted on 09/25/2012 4:59:59 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: kingattax

Barry Lynn would have run to the British to tell them what was being talked about in colonial churches.


4 posted on 09/25/2012 5:00:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: kingattax

Every minister that gets this should violate the law. The IRS will be so swamped by this they’ll just throw in the towel.

Every church in America should violate this law.

It would be like a ddos attack on the IRS.


5 posted on 09/25/2012 5:01:27 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Its not illegal for them to speak out on politics in churches but they will be taxed if they do so.

That in itself makes the tax questionable.


6 posted on 09/25/2012 5:03:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
The IRS has never taken a church to task for speaking out from the pulpit. Black churches do it all the time!

This election I would hope every church who is pro life and and supports Israel better speak out very strongly against Obama.

7 posted on 09/25/2012 5:06:50 PM PDT by Keen-Minded
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To: cripplecreek

Refuse to pay the tax or comply with any orders.

It shoulkd start with the Catholic churches. Threaten excommunication for any Catholic who votes or supports Democrats. Even wearing a button or having one of Zero’s bumper stickers on your car should be good reason to give ‘em the thumb.

Again, if all do it, the IRS will be swamped.


8 posted on 09/25/2012 5:07:30 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: kingattax
Did Barry send this letter to inner city black churches in St Louis, Philly or Chicago?

Didn't think so.

9 posted on 09/25/2012 5:08:30 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: kingattax
Let's not forget these Democrat gems. Here is an oldie but goodie from Newsmax, November 7, 2000:

With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...

Tuesday November 7, 2000; 9:37 AM ET

Jesse Jackson Jr. Says Church Politicking 'Supersedes the Law'

It may be against federal election law to campaign in church. But for Democrats seeking to get out the vote in minority districts, politicking from the pulpit has become indispensable.

In the last days of this year's campaign, Vice President Al Gore, Senate candidate Hillary Clinton and her husband have all made regular appearances at African-American and Hispanic churches.

Even when parishioners objected to Mrs. Clinton campaigning from the altar at a Rochester, N.Y., Catholic church last week, the rules were not enforced. Those who didn't like it were simply ejected by police while the first lady continued her campaign speech.

Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr., whose namesake is both a reverend and one of the Democratic Party's most vocal boosters, was challenged on the issue Monday during a Tennessee radio interview on WLAC-AM by "Nashville This Morning" hosts Steve Gill and Terry Hopkins.

GILL: Let me ask you about this. It's against IRS regulations for politicians to campaign from the pulpit. Why are these politicians campaigning in black churches?

JACKSON: I'm not totally convinced that's true in the African-American community. Certainly there's a separation of church and state. But in our community there's little distinction between our religion and our politics. ... And so in many African-American churches born out of experience in this country, the role of the churches has evolved into a very, very active political institution which has been very effective for a number of causes in the black community.

HOPKINS: And that supersedes the law?

JACKSON: Absolutely. Oh, absolutely.

In 2003, this story popped back up on Newsmax, covering the same topic.

From the NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...
Thursday, June 3, 2004

Only Democrats Are Allowed to Campaign in Churches

Anti-religious zealots and hypocrites who don't object when the likes of John Kerry and Al Sharpton and Bill Clinton and Al Gore and Jesse Jackson and Jimmy Carter campaign in churches are feigning outrage that President Bush dares to do the same thing.

An e-mail from Luke Bernstein of the Bush-Cheney campaign's office in Pennsylvania asks churchgoers to organize "Friendly Congregations" to promote the president's re-election.

"I'd like to ask if you would like to serve as a coordinator in your place of worship," the message says. "We plan to undertake activities such as distributing general information/updates or voter registration materials in a place accessible to the congregation."

Kevin Madden, a spokesman for the campaign, said: "People of faith feel strongly about the president, are people we want to be part of our campaign. This message is intended to be from individual to individual. This is organizing with individuals who may be members of a church who we hope to identify as supporters and be part of our efforts."

The Internal Revenue Service supposedly bans tax-exempt organizations such as churches from politicking, but Jackson and other Democrats have violated that regulation for decades with impunity. Kerry has recently campaigned and staged photo opportunities at several churches. The New York Times and wire stories attacking the Bush campaign's strategy today refused to mention those facts.

How dare Republicans do what Democrats are allowed to do. Barry Lynn, head of a group that calls itself Americans United for Separation of Church and State, raged, "I have never in my life seen such a direct campaign to politicize American churches."

-PJ
10 posted on 09/25/2012 5:08:40 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't I naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

The Black Robe Regiment encourages them to pay the tax but speak loudly and often.

http://www.blackrobereg.org/


11 posted on 09/25/2012 5:10:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: kingattax

It’s sad that black ministers are the only ones who seem to fear God more than the government. I will never again donate to a church with a cowardly pastor who believes the government has more power than the Lord he encourages his flock to worship.


12 posted on 09/25/2012 5:12:47 PM PDT by Terry Mross (The Clintons seem to be very afraid of obama. Do they owe him their souls?)
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To: cripplecreek

This is a critical election year. Some have said it may be the most important election in our life time. With so much at stake, how great it would be to hear from more pastors and priests, during these times when the government encroaches on more of our freedoms.

Some fear that to preach on the moral issues of the day, like abortion or marriage, might be construed as “preaching on politics.” But they are moral issues addressed in the Bible. But I recognize that elements of our culture may have turned them into political ones.

I think part of the reason many pastors and priests are unwilling to speak out on “politics” (so-called) is because they fear the loss of their tax exempt status.

I believe that the perceived threat is far more insidious than the actual threat. The dog’s bark is much more prominent than the dog’s bite.

I also believe there are some who stoke this fear. For example, Rev. Barry Lynn (a liberal minister) of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State sends out letters like clockwork during election years, warning pastors to not say anything too political or he’ll be sure to tell the IRS on them.

For example, during the last president election, Barry Lynn sent out a letter with the headline: “Election Season 2008.” He stated, “Dear Religious Leader….The First Amendment protects the right of all Americans, religious leaders included, to speak out on religious, moral and political issues.” So far so good.

He goes on more ominously: “However, houses of worship…are barred from endorsing or opposing candidates for public office and may not intervene directly or indirectly in partisan campaigns. Any activity designed to influence the outcome of a partisan election can be construed as intervention. If the IRS determines that your house of worship has engaged in unlawful intervention, it can revoke the institution’s tax-exempt status or levy significant fines on the hour of worship or its leaders.”

I asked Mat Staver about this letter. He heads Jerry Falwell’s law school and also Liberty Counsel, his own organization fighting for religious liberty. He responded, “I think Barry Lynn’s letter is bogus. It’s basically full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

Really? Staver continued, “Look at Barry Lynn-—how many of these cases has he ever won? Zero. How many churches have ever lost their tax-exempt status since this was put into the IRS code in 1954? Zero. And in fact, if you have that kind of a track record, I don’t think his advice is that strong.”

http://www.christianpost.com/news/pastors-and-the-irs-bogeyman-71459/


13 posted on 09/25/2012 5:14:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Terry Mross
Government fears the power of churches and God because the seeds of the American revolution were sown by them.

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"It was Sunday morning early in the year 1776. In the church where Pastor Muhlenberg preached, it was a regular service for his congregation, but a quite different affair for Muhlenberg himself. Muhlenberg's text for the day was Ecclesiastes 3 where it explains, 'To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven; a time to be born, and a time to die, a time to plant, and a time to pluck what is planted...'"

"Coming to the end of his sermon, Peter Muhlenberg turned to his congregation and said, 'In the language of the holy writ, there was a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to pray, but those times have passed away.' As those assembled looked on, Pastor Muhlenberg declared, 'There is a time to fight, and that time is now coming!' Muhlenberg then proceeded to remove his robes revealing, to the shock of his congregation, a military uniform."

"Marching to the back of the church he declared, 'Who among you is with me?' On that day 300 men from his church stood up and joined Peter Muhlenberg. They eventually became the 8th Virginia Brigade fighting for liberty."

"Frederick Muhlenberg, Peter's brother, was against Peter's level of involvement in the war. Peter responded to Frederick writing, 'I am a Clergyman it is true, but I am a member of the Society as well as the poorest Layman, and my Liberty is as dear to me as any man, shall I then sit still and enjoy myself at Home when the best Blood of the Covenant is spilling? ...So far am I from thinking that I act wrong, I am convinced it is my duty to do so and duly I owe to God and my country."

14 posted on 09/25/2012 5:16:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Terry Mross

It’s sad that black ministers are the only ones who seem to fear God more than the government.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I missed the sarcasm tag. Or was it so obvious that it didn’t need one?

Please tell me this is sarcasm.


15 posted on 09/25/2012 5:16:51 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Wiser now

You will never get Barry Lynn to threaten the African American churches that support Obama (just like they did Clinton) even when they do it from the pulpit. I know because I turned in several of them and Barry Lynn & his butt boy Rob Boston mocked me. They can kiss my *ss and Iold them so.

They are political antongonists masquerading as religious leaders. They intimidate their opponents to help win elections for liberals.


16 posted on 09/25/2012 5:20:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kingattax

Just vaguely describe the candidate without naming ....


17 posted on 09/25/2012 5:21:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: kingattax

Rob Boston is senior policy analyst at Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Rob, who has worked at Americans United since 1987, also serves as assistant editor of AU’s “Church & State” magazine. Rob is the author of three books: “Close Encounters with the Religious Right: Journeys into the Twilight Zone of Religion and Politics” (Prometheus Books, 2000); “The Most Dangerous Man in America? Pat Robertson and the Rise of the Christian Coalition” (Prometheus Books, 1996) and “Why the Religious Right Is Wrong About Separation of Church and State” (Prometheus Books, 1993; second edition, 2003).

http://au.org/about/people/rob-boston


18 posted on 09/25/2012 5:23:06 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kingattax

Maggie Garrett is the Legislative Director for Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

Maggie has been working on church-state separation issues for more than a decade.  Although she started her civil liberties work as a litigator, she now works in the public policy arena.  She represents Americans United before Congress and the Obama Administration, and she oversees the state legislative program.  She leads the National Coalition for Public Education (NCPE), the national coalition that opposes school voucher legislation, and is the chair of the Coalition Against Religious Discrimination (CARD), which is the national coalition that fights to repeal the Bush Faith-Based Initiative.
 
Maggie was actually the first Madison Fellow in the Legal Department of Americans United in 2000 before she moved down south to work for the ACLU of Alabama and then the ACLU of Georgia.  At the ACLU of Georgia, she litigated high-profile cases on issues including the separation of church and state, free speech, reproductive rights, and voting rights.  


19 posted on 09/25/2012 5:28:26 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kingattax

Non-partisan my *ss.....

Peter Kurdock is the Assistant Legislative Director for Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

Before joining Americans United, Peter was the Legislative Director for a not-for-profit organization focusing on First Amendment issues.  Previously, he worked as an Associate Director of Policy for State Affairs for the American Association for Justice (formerly the Association of Trial Lawyers of America).  Peter has also served as a Legislative Aide to United States Senator Frank R. Lautenberg and Congressman Bill Pascrell, Jr.


20 posted on 09/25/2012 5:32:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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