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Accidental firearm deaths for those under age 15 rise back up in 2010
johnrlott.blogspot.com ^ | 23 September, 2012 | John Lott

Posted on 09/24/2012 8:06:51 AM PDT by marktwain

CDC data show number of accidental firearm deaths for children under age 15 has gone back up to 62, a number that it was at in 2008. The 48 accidental deaths in 2009 was unusually low. A similar pattern also held for total accidental gun deaths for all ages: 2008, 592; 2009, 554; and 2010, 606.

However, over the longer term, the pattern for accidental gun deaths is similar to other accidental deaths in that is as long as we have data you see a gradual decline, though in recent years the decline in accidental firearm deaths has slowed.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: accidents; banglist; fatal; firearms; johnlott; lott
Notice that fatal firearms accidents for children up to the age of 14 is about 1 for every five million of the population of the United States. 62 deaths for about 310 million people. This is down in the noise level. For children under the age of 10, it is 28 deaths, or less than one for every 11 million people. Age 10 and above should be old enough to know better.
1 posted on 09/24/2012 8:07:01 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
How many children under the age of 15 are killed every year with swimming pools?

/johnny

2 posted on 09/24/2012 8:08:51 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain
This is down in the noise level.

"Yes it is however the fight to ban firearms and remove the 2nd amendment from the constitution must go on until not one single death is caused by firearms in any way shape or form!"

This is what will be claimed until the end of our sovereign nation.

3 posted on 09/24/2012 8:13:22 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: JRandomFreeper
How many children under the age of 15 are killed every year with swimming pools?

Not enough to ban them, just enough to tax the he!! out of the ownership of them....for the children.

4 posted on 09/24/2012 8:15:06 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

Its not about the children or safety. They are simple a lever being used to further the leftist agenda of govt control.


5 posted on 09/24/2012 8:16:30 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Please do not make decisions on any CDC statistics. CDC is screamingly, overwhelmingly political. Every statistic and every decision appears to be checked for a proper fit in the progressive, liberal agenda before being OK’ed. Believe me, every word in their releases is parsed and re-parsed, so those figures will support only what the liberal operatives want you to believe.

And when you run out of other things to do, check out CDC personnel salaries and duties.

6 posted on 09/24/2012 8:21:21 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: July4
I don't. I know the CDC is political.

My point was that swimming pools are about 100 times more dangerous for children than firearms.

/johnny

7 posted on 09/24/2012 8:24:08 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: July4

Finn Aagard was a professional hunter in old Kenya. He had 2 sons. He had a number of rifles on up to a ,458 Win Mag. House rules when the kids were growing up?

They could shoot any of them they like so long as they asked and he supervised.

Supervise a kid and let them shoot a gallon milk jug full of water with a .22.

Automatic Lower gun violence. Once they know first hand what one does, they’re far less likely to abuse it.


8 posted on 09/24/2012 8:39:24 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
How many children under the age of 15 are killed, directly or indirectly, by irresponsible, drunk or drugged-up parents or their boyfriends/girlfriends?

Since welfare, ADC, food stamps, and disability very often enable this way of life, could we run the figures on how many children under the age of 15 are murdered by entitlements?

9 posted on 09/24/2012 8:39:55 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?
“Automatic Lower gun violence. Once they know first hand what one does, they’re far less likely to abuse it.”

I agree. My children learned to use and respect firearms, and they learned how to play poker with their parents at the kitchen table. In both cases, we all had a lot of fun. With firearms, they learned self-defense and hunting skills. With poker (just chips, no money), they learned decision-making and investing skills.

10 posted on 09/24/2012 8:50:21 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: marktwain

62 deaths per year? Hmmm Stataticians love to put htis number out htere and make it seem like a really dangerous thing by HIDING the stats from other causes of death because if they had shown htem, it would show that deaths from firearms isn’t as dire as they make it appear- whil;e NO accidental eath is desired, accidents do and always WILL happen- but the fact is that firearms are still VERY safe comapred tro other household accidental deaths-

[[CDC data show number of accidental firearm deaths for children under age 15 has gone back up to 62, a number that it was at in 2008.]]

“2. Poisoning: The second-leading cause of accidental home injury deaths — poisoning — takes nearly 5,000 lives each year. And for young adults and people in middle age, it’s the top cause.

3. Fire and burns: Home fires and burns claim more than 3,000 lives a year, making them the third-leading cause of accidental home injury deaths.

4. Airway obstruction: Airway obstruction, which includes choking, suffocation and strangulation, claims about 1,000 lives a year.

6. Suffocation
Deaths per year: 3,300

2. Falls
Deaths per year: 14,900

The annual average is 341 for accidental bath tub related deaths which include slipping, falling drowning, etc


11 posted on 09/24/2012 8:55:58 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: July4

or how many kids arem urdered or killed by ILLEGAL ALIENS (oooooo- can’t mention illegals murderign natural citizens, that’s politcally incorrect and ‘profiling’)


12 posted on 09/24/2012 8:59:20 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: marktwain
A 0700 post by TurboZamboni provides a link to a WSJ article entitled “How to Stop Hospitals from Killing Us.” While interesting in and off itself it also contains this little gem:

98,000
Annual deaths from medical errors in the U.S.

Source: Institute of Medicine.

I just sent a link to my kid brother - an MD who opposes firearms because of the “Bad Things They Do” (gag).

13 posted on 09/24/2012 10:54:34 AM PDT by dontBSme
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To: dontBSme

98,000 is a whitewash. It’s Way higher than that.

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm

This fully referenced report shows the number of people having in-hospital, adverse reactions to prescribed drugs to be 2.2 million per year. The number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections is 20 million per year. The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million per year. The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9 million per year.

The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. It is now evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the US. (By contrast, the number of deaths attributable to heart disease in 2001 was 699,697, while the number of deaths attributable to cancer was 553,251.5)


14 posted on 09/24/2012 12:14:28 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: marktwain
There are some reasons:

(1) the perps using firearms are recruiting younger members to do crimes because, if caught, they are regarded as juveniles and not adults;
(2) the turf wars between various drug gangs are not picky about collateral damage, especially kids. [No less a personage than Rahm Emanuel pleaded with drug gangs to stop shooting kids and take their shooting to side streets and alleys where they belong.]; and
(3) the CDC lumps real “accidental” youth shootings along with youth crime victims and perps to drive up the actual numbers.

The CDC has been anti-2A for years. Any statistics from them are more than suspect — as in Bravo Sierra.

15 posted on 09/24/2012 4:17:48 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: JRandomFreeper; All

This shows the data from 1997, but I suspect the ratios are similar:

Op-ed piece on swimming pools vs. guns as the most dangerous weapon

http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2001/07/27/levittpoolsvsguns/

“Thus, on average, if you both own a gun and have a swimming pool in the backyard, the swimming pool is about 100 times more likely to kill a child than the gun is.”


16 posted on 09/25/2012 2:17:36 AM PDT by marktwain
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