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To: butterdezillion
When I asked Janice Okubo for a copy of the form they use for verifications she said there weren’t any records responsive to my request because they don’t do verifications; when somebody sends in for a verification the HDOH sends them a certified COLB.

Yep. Liars.

From their own current website:

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html

Letters of Verification

Letters of verification may be issued in lieu of certified copies (HRS §338-14.3). This document verifies the existence of a birth/death/civil union/marriage/divorce certificate on file with the Department of Health and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event. (For example, that a certain named individual was born on a certain date at a certain place.) The verification process will not, however, disclose information about the vital event contained within the certificate that is unknown to and not provided by the applicant in the request.

Letters of verification are requested in similar fashion and using the same request forms as for certified copies.

The fee for a letter of verification is $5 per letter.

73 posted on 09/23/2012 9:37:39 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

Look again at that description:

“This document verifies the existence of a birth/death/civil union/marriage/divorce certificate on file with the Department of Health and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event. (For example, that a certain named individual was born on a certain date at a certain place.)”

When somebody provides information to be verified they are requesting that Onaka verify, for example, “that a certain named individual was born on a certain date at a certain place”.

How would Onaka verify that? By saying he verifies that a certain named individual WAS born on a certain date at a certain place.

Not by saying “this information about birth date matches the information on our record”...

Neither MDEC nor Kobach asked for any BIRTH FACT to be verified (for instance, that Obama WAS born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI). Bennett did, and the response to that request regarding particulars was nothing. Onaka did not verify that a certain named individual WAS born on a certain date at a certain place. Onaka has NEVER verified that Obama was born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI - even though he was required to do so if he could certify that as the way the event actually happened.

And of course, I know you know that. This is just so clear I can’t imagine anybody not seeing it.


76 posted on 09/23/2012 9:59:23 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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