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To: Red Steel; All
If Obama was born on US soil, he is a Natural Born Citizen.

Period.

There is absolutely no living legal authority, no Judge, no Elected Official, no Elector, no Immigration Attorney, no Member of Congress, and no Governor who disagrees with me on this point.

The Citizenship of the parents ONLY matters if the birth does not take place on American Soil.

This is the law.

PERIOD!

8 posted on 09/14/2012 6:27:34 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
There is absolutely no living legal authority

So? The Founding Fathers agree with us.

PERIOD.

Traitor John Roberts is living and he threw the Founding Fathers under the bus. Traitor Roberts is still WRONG.

9 posted on 09/14/2012 6:32:37 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Kansas58
PERIOD!

BS! Your shouted opinion means squat.

PERIOD!

11 posted on 09/14/2012 6:34:16 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Kansas58
Are you saying Sheriff Arpaio is not a legal authority?
13 posted on 09/14/2012 6:36:31 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (oboy)
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To: Kansas58
There is absolutely no living legal authority, no Judge, no Elected Official, no Elector, no Immigration Attorney, no Member of Congress, and no Governor who disagrees with me on this point.

No "living" huh? Past US governments that of legal authority do disagree with you.

If Obama was born on US soil, he is a Natural Born Citizen. Period.

The Citizenship of the parents ONLY matters if the birth does not take place on American Soil.

This is the law.

PERIOD!


BS simpleton.

Not according to past US governments who were not into revisionist history, and who understood natural born and to the meaning and usage of the phrase "The Subject of the Jurisdiction Thereof" written in the 14th Amendment:

1874, The House Committee for Foreign Relations on the 14th Amendment.

Nework Times  March  29, 1874  House Foreign Rel citizens pg1, 1874 House Foreign Relations Committee  Bill pertaining to Citizenship under the 14th Amendment.

continued...

New York  Times House Foreign Relations Committee March,  29, 1874, 1874 House Foreign Relations Committee  Bill pertaining to Citizenship under the 14th Amendment. Newyork Times reported 30th March , 1874   Page 2 of 2


You think you can understand what should read above? I have have my doubt.

19 posted on 09/14/2012 6:47:21 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Kansas58; Red Steel

Isn’t the primary question posed before the Kansas board related to where Obama was born? In other words, isn’t it the responsibility of the candidate and/or their political party to prove beyond doubt that the candidate is born on US soil? It seems to be merely a question of proper credentials...


40 posted on 09/14/2012 7:40:45 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: Kansas58

You know exactly nothing!

Three types of citizenship are recognized by our government: native born; naturalized; and citizen-by-statute (derived citizenship from parents). All have equal rights. All can serve in Congress, either as a Representative in the House, or as a Senator in the Senate.
The following link will take you to the government’s own Immigration Service web page describing the three types of citizenship.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

Natural born Citizen is NOT a type of statutory citizenship.

Natural born is ONLY an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency per Article II, Section 1, clause 5, of the U.S. Constitution, and requires the President to be born in the United States (jus solis) AND of two citizen parents (jus sanguinas).

The definition of natural born Citizen appears in the holding of SCOTUS’s unanimous decision on Minor v. Happersett (1874).

Virginia Minor sued to be included as a candidate for U.S. President based on her eligibility under the 14th Amendment to the U.S.Constitution. SCOTUS rejected her argument and examined her eligibility, concluding that she belonged to the class of citizens who, being born in the U.S. of citizen parents, was a natural born Citizen, and not covered by the 14th Amendment. This holding has been used in 25 consequent SCOTUS decisions since 1875.

No one has the RIGHT to be President. The eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship (jus solis + jus sanguinas: born in the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents) must be viewed as a means to prevent split allegiance for any President of the United States.

This is called Rule of Law.


83 posted on 09/14/2012 9:03:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Kansas58

With your position then the children of the current President of Egypt who were born in the USA and he has such children and any child of a south of the border mom who returned to her native country to live could any day be POTUSA. I don’t believe that the records of the Founding Fathers supports such a position in any shape or form as to the intention for the Constitution.


100 posted on 09/15/2012 1:22:29 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Kansas58

Obama wasn’t born on american soil, he was born in Kenya which at the time was british soil!


101 posted on 09/15/2012 1:41:41 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Kansas58
If Obama was born on US soil, he is a Natural Born Citizen.

Period.

And the stupid idiot opens his mouth again.

There is absolutely no living legal authority, no Judge, no Elected Official, no Elector, no Immigration Attorney, no Member of Congress, and no Governor who disagrees with me on this point.

There isn't a one of those people who UNDERSTAND the point. They are ALL IGNORANT, just like you. What do you have when a bunch of ignorant people think something is correct? You have a fallacy based on ignorance, just as when the entire population thought the world was flat. They were wrong, and so are you and your ignorant judges and governors and electors.

The Citizenship of the parents ONLY matters if the birth does not take place on American Soil.

Or unless the Parents are Indians prior to 1922, or Slaves prior to 1868, or British Loyalists after the Revolution, or the Children of Ambassadors, but holes in your theory don't bother you at all do they?

This is the law.

PERIOD!

No, it's what ignorant butt heads THINK is the law. Here is another example, ignorant butt head. This one comes from James Monroe. You may have heard of him?

James Monroe, Paris 4th July 1795

A Mr Eldred was lately apprehended at Marseilles and sent here under guard upon a charge of having given intelligence to the British of some movement in the French fleet. Upon inquiry I found he had my passport granted too upon the most substantial documents proving him to be an American citizen; but I likewise found that in truth he was not an American citizen, for although born in America yet he was not there in the course of our revolution but in England, nor had he been there since. From what I hear of him, he is not a person of mischevious 1 Page Break

disposition nor one who would be apt to commit the offence charged upon him, but yet I do not see how I can officially interfere in his behalf, for when once a principle is departed from, it ceases to be a principle. More latterly I was requested by the commissary of foreign affairs to prohibit our consuls from granting passports, which was immediately done. I was afterwards requested by him to furnish a list of the Americans actually in Paris, and to render a like list every decade of those who should in the interim arrive, and which was promised and will be punctually executed. I herewith send you a copy of my instructions to the Consuls and correspondence with the commissary on this subject.

OMG James MONROE stabbed you in the back!!!!! He reached out from the 217 years in the past to bitch-slap you here in the present! Get a clue jackass!


122 posted on 09/15/2012 11:13:51 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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