[GilesB]

Quite being silly - to say “Today the child chose to ride the bike, just like he chose to take a nap yesterday” is not saying a bike and a nap are the same - and no reasonable person would honestly attempt to make a case that it was.

And PLEASE don’t come back with “are you saying a bike is the same as an abortion?”

Yes, a person persisting in your argument is not being reasonable, or not being honest. I have no idea which applies in your case. Your attempt to attack me is the debating equivalent of saying “Apparently, if someone does not agree with you that 2+2 = 4 they are being unreasonable.” To which I reply - yes, that is true. Neither is a matter of opinion, they are matters of logical or mathematical fact.

[green pastures]

Quite being silly - to say “Today the child chose to ride the bike, just like he chose to take a nap yesterday” is not saying a bike and a nap are the same - and no reasonable person would honestly attempt to make a case that it was.

Your example is not comparable.

"In this case, just like abortion, the woman makes the decision."

A women does not make a decision to miscarry.

Miscarriage does not occur by mentally willing it so.

I have a friend who miscarried and the scars run deep. She has enough to deal with without someone saying that "In this case [i.e., in the case of miscarriage], just like abortion, the woman makes the decision. " She did not make the decision to miscarry.