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Help me understand why Mitt is slipping in Rasmussen Polls (Vanity)
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Posted on 08/19/2012 7:56:32 AM PDT by AdamBomb

One would think that after a full week of Ryan and Romney campaigning strong that they would have maintained a lead in the Rasmussen poll.

For the life of me I do not understand how the kenyan can all of a sudden be up 2 points for 3 days in a row.

Any thoughts?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; cuzheisaliberal; homosexualagenda; kenyanisgone; proabortion; rasmussen; romney; romneycare; youdidntbuildthat
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To: LS
From the article, an admission they are jimmying the polls:

There is NO truth anymore, everything has a bias to deceive!

You did some mighty calculations there! Kudos. If more voters where like you, we wouldn't be in this mess. YOU say alot about the type FR draws. You remind me of back in the day of the freepers' posts when I was 'lurking to learn'.

THANKS!!

81 posted on 08/19/2012 10:02:17 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: AdamBomb

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/07/10/summer_of_1980_poll_flashback_carter_39_reagan_32_anderson_21


82 posted on 08/19/2012 10:03:00 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: jennychase

They need to remind the voting public of:
1. US credit Rating Downgrade—the first ever in history
2. The vast increase in food stamp usage under Zero
3. Unemployment
4. Funding Brazil’s energy development
5. Support of theMuslim Brotherhood—who are now crucifying Christians in Egypt.
6. $5 billion in IRS payments to illegal aliens each year
The list goes on and on, and Romney and Ryan need to be hammering on these.


83 posted on 08/19/2012 10:06:15 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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To: LS

And one of them could have been you!! I just noticed you are from the early ‘98 class. I started lurking in 10/98 and was a bit overwhelmed at all the knowledgeable posters. I said this is MY place! Since one can’t learn with one’s mouth open - I waited unless ‘05 to sign up!


84 posted on 08/19/2012 10:07:30 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: RightWingConspirator

And they need to repeat on and on like a broken record.

Leave medicare in basement.

There is no need to understand Romney plans ( yet to hear one, anyway), just hammer Obama on economy, unemployment and slipping living standard.


85 posted on 08/19/2012 10:15:33 AM PDT by jennychase
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To: AdamBomb

I believe that a large part of the problem is that Romney has surrounded himself with a hideously liberal campaign staff. McCain and Crist retreads. They have absolutely no idea how to appeal to the right — because all of their instincts and experience are hard left. Hence, every time Obama hands Romney an issue, they pass it right back in to Obama’s hands (the lying romney killed my wife ad, for example).

Worse yet, Romney’s leftwing confederacy of dunces actually believes that if they just espouse enough lib positions, the left will abandon Obama for Romney. And, it ain’t gonna happen.

In short, unless Romney replaces his leftwing whore corps with conservatives, we are in for an Obama landslide.


86 posted on 08/19/2012 10:16:22 AM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: AdamBomb

I believe that a large part of the problem is that Romney has surrounded himself with a hideously liberal campaign staff. McCain and Crist retreads. They have absolutely no idea how to appeal to the right — because all of their instincts and experience are hard left. Hence, every time Obama hands Romney an issue, they pass it right back in to Obama’s hands (the lying romney killed my wife ad, for example).

Worse yet, Romney’s leftwing confederacy of dunces actually believes that if they just espouse enough lib positions, the left will abandon Obama for Romney. And, it ain’t gonna happen.

In short, unless Romney replaces his leftwing whore corps with conservatives, we are in for an Obama landslide.


87 posted on 08/19/2012 10:18:09 AM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: phillyfanatic
stop the baloney about Mitt being the one who is losing the votes. Actually, the Right has been very strong in its support . The problem is the Blue states large electoral votes outnumber the small red states<.u>.

You seem to have forgotten which state Romney served as governor. It's as blue as blue can get.

While I strongly disagree with those who claim Romney is as much a socialist as Obama, we're not talking about a right-wing extremist here. In fact, I have not yet decided if Romney is just to the left or just to the right of Bill Clinton. But there's one thing I do know, he can win blue states. He was governor of one.

Yes, this election is Romney's to lose.

88 posted on 08/19/2012 10:42:11 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: tsowellfan

“....Onama appears to be the outsider and incumbent.”

uhhhhh, Obama is the incumbent. I think you mean the outsider and challenger......


89 posted on 08/19/2012 10:58:22 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: napscoordinator

I wonder if part of that was that it was at a different time than it normally comes. Usually the VP announcement is a day or two before the convention begins, so it may be hard to net out convention bounce from VP bounce. At any rate, both Romney and Ryan need to show themselves very well at the convention, especially Romney who is still sort of a cipher to the public, I think.


90 posted on 08/19/2012 11:00:41 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: presently no screen name
The very light polls taking place right now are best viewed the way we would a Six Sigma quality control survey. There we'd be looking for signs that a process was not within statistical control, or was not otherwise perfect.

45% doesn't mean what you think it means looked at that way. Rather, if your expectation from prior data and experience was that it ought to be 46%, getting 45% wouldn't be 'good enough', it'd be a DISASTER.

On the other hand if your expectation was 30%, 45% would be 'more than meeting expectations' ~ or a good score ~ and the final report would go in your record with an 'atta boy'.

When we have a trend-line as our sine qua non ~ then we want to see how things were going in prior periods and even prior years. We want to see if a specific process (e.g. getting Romney elected) looks like it's on track, or doing better than planned, or worse than expected.

You'd be doing that right up to the final two weeks then you'd pay for a real poll with a lot of sample cells, and some nuanced questions, and you'd drop more money on 2 or 3 of them than you did all the others for the last 4 years.

We are not there yet. So, what do these polls mean for Romney from the Romney team point of view? Basically, a Six Sigma analysis would tell Romney HE IS A WINNER. That's because he more than meets his own expectations and his own history, and, his opponent, Obama, is not doing as well as his own history, nor his expectations.

And all of that is probably a Happyvalley situation for the Mittbots until we look at the big clock on the wall and notice that Romney still hasn't hit 50% on a real election in his life. Best he could do in MA was 49.77%. In most of his primary elections (counting 2008) he was down in the lower two digits at best, and sometimes in single digits.

Later primaries without competition, or where political chacanery had destroyed the process (eg VA 2012) really don't count in a Six Sigma reviewed ~ there, you'd be getting shown the exit door to the plant. Told to get your car off the lot machschnell.

So, we have a guy looking at his stuff in isolation, or in comparison to Obama ~ who is showing up to this election with a 10 million vote overhang in the last ~ and it's neck and neck every now and then.

His aggregate career performance (this production line this decade) is really not up to snuff ~ it's erratic, too many questionable performances, no real showings up against competetors of equal status, and he's hidden half the data files!

OK, so that's a quality review ~ two weeks before the election we should get some new, good life data drawn from a sufficient number of points on the compass, and then the fun is all gone. Both candidates will know from the second poll then if one of them is a winner or a loser. At the same time such a poll at this point would be meaningless. The fickel public is fickel, so we are stuck with Six Sigma and it doesn't look good for Romney. At the same time Obama has cheated in every election he's entered, so we'd fired him if we'd caught him.

91 posted on 08/19/2012 11:02:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RayChuang88

“...(and) change the economy of the USA for the better thanks to way lower yearly compliance costs....”

It’s a job killer....think of all those out of work CPAs!/s


92 posted on 08/19/2012 11:02:44 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: AdamBomb
read the internals and it will become quite clear that the narrative is "this is a close race." There is hundreds of millions of dollars to be made, by the media, as long as it's a close one. could you imagine how little would be spent if it's a "blow out" before the convention?

The Media relies on this revenue stream once every 4 years to balance their books.

They wont let it slip away.

93 posted on 08/19/2012 11:03:23 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Forty-Niner

I did mean challenger. Obama’s campaign has me spinning around so much I said that in error. He’s acting like Romney has been in the WH the last 3+ years.


94 posted on 08/19/2012 11:03:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: presently no screen name

Well, thanks. No harm in lurking.


95 posted on 08/19/2012 11:04:01 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: tsowellfan
Romney 49.77% Some darned Democrat 44.94%

That's the one election Romney ever won in Massachusetts.

Dude imagines he's politically astute and he never broke 50%

96 posted on 08/19/2012 11:05:25 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Yup. I agree. Problem is, another 4 years of Obama and anybody to the right of Sanders will be unelectable. Mark my words.


97 posted on 08/19/2012 11:08:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: AdamBomb

The GOP needs to drop Romney if they really have any chance of defeating Obama.

Even with Ryan there is just too many voters burnt on Romney, his record, his stance and his image.

And these voters are very very firm in their belief, no matter what tactic to make Romney more acceptable.

Romney just won’t work.

Ryan apparently does have something the people believe in, but just not enough.


98 posted on 08/19/2012 11:13:22 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Vote for Sarah Palin, she is the cure to the disease and infection of socialism.)
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To: Eye of Unk

His ACU rating has dropped 15% from 2010 to 2011 ~ anyone have any idea how that happened?


99 posted on 08/19/2012 11:26:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: AdamBomb

Rasmussen shows the electoral college has shifted towards Romney. Romney is now ahead in Wisconsin, Iowa and Florida. Tied in Ohio, Colorado and Virginia and closing the gap in Pennsylvania. North Carolina and Indiana are now red states again. These were all states that the Kenyan won in 2008 and he won’t be winning them this time around. Rasmussen also shows MI, NH, NV, ME, MN, and OR are no longer safe either. (I don’t believe Romney will win all of those, but it does show which way the wind is blowing) Meanwhile, the Kenyan can’t break out of the low 40’s no matter what he throws at them.


100 posted on 08/19/2012 11:28:42 AM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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