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Who Does The Government Intend To Shoot?
Daily Caller ^ | 9:40 AM 08/17/2012 | Major General Jerry Curry, USA (Ret.)

Posted on 08/18/2012 8:48:02 PM PDT by null and void


Photo by Oleg Volk, http://www.olegvolk.net/

The Social Security Administration (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets to be delivered to 41 locations in major cities across the U.S.  No one has yet said what the purpose of these purchases is, though we are led to believe that they will be used only in an emergency to counteract and control civil unrest. Those against whom the hollow point bullets are to be used — those causing the civil unrest — must be American citizens; since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens.

What would be the target of these 174, 000 rounds of hollow point bullets? It can’t simply be to control demonstrators or rioters. Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets don’t just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body’s organs. Death often follows.

Potentially each hollow nose bullet represents a dead American. If so, why would the U.S. government want the SSA to kill 174,000 of our citizens, even during a time of civil unrest? Or is the purpose to kill 174,000 of the nation’s military and replace them with Department of Homeland Security (DHS) special security forces, forces loyal to the Administration, not to the Constitution?

All my life I’ve handled firearms. When a young boy growing up on my father’s farm in Pennsylvania Dad’s first rule of firearms training was, “Never point a gun at someone, in fun or otherwise, unless you intend to shoot them. If you shoot someone, shoot to kill.” I’ve never forgotten his admonition. It stayed with me through my Boy Scout training, when I enlisted in the army as a Private to fight in the Korea
War, during my days as a Ranger and Paratrooper and throughout my thirty-four year military career.

If this were only a one time order of ammunition, it could easily be dismissed. But there is a pattern here. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has ordered 46,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition. Notice that all of these purchases are for the lethal hollow nose bullets.  These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting. This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes.

In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls. This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen. Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? What’s the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest? Has Congress and the Administration vetted the plan in public.

I fear that Congress won’t take these ammunition purchases seriously until they are all led from Capitol Hill in handcuffs. Why buy all this ammunition unless you plan to use it. Unknown to Congress, Does DHS plan to declare war on some country? Shouldn’t Congress hold hearings on why the Administration is stockpiling this ammunition all across the nation? How will it be used; what are the Administration’s plans?

Obama is a deadly serious, persistent man. Once he focuses on an object, he pursues it to the end. What is his focus here? All of these rounds of ammunition can only be used to kill American citizens, though there is enough ammunition being ordered to kill, in addition to every American citizen, also every Iranian, Syrian or Mexican. There is simply too much of it. And this much ammunition can’t be just for training, there aren’t that many weapons and “shooters” in the U.S. to fire it. Perhaps it is to be used to arm illegal immigrants?

We have enough military forces to maintain law and order in the U.S. even during times of civil unrest.

We have local police, backed up by each state’s National Guard, backed up by the Department of Defense. So in addition to all these forces why does DHS need its own private army? Why do the SSA, NOAA and other government agencies need to create their own civilian security forces armed with hollow nose bullets?

Were I the JCS, and if I wasn’t already fully briefed on this matter, I’d stop the purchase of hollow point bullets, ask the secretary of Defense why all this ammunition is being purchased and spread around the country? If I got answers like the ones Congress got during the investigation of Operation Fast and Furious – I’d start tracking all ammunition deliveries nationwide to find out what organizations and units are using them, for what purpose and, if it is not constitutional, prepare to counteract whatever it is that they are doing.

This is a deadly serious business. I hope I’m wrong, but something smells rotten. And If the Congress isn’t going to do its duty and investigate this matter fully, the military will have to protect the Constitution, the nation, and our citizens.

Jerry Curry is a decorated combat veteran, Army Aviator, Paratrooper, and Ranger, who for nearly forty years has served his country both in the military and as a Presidential political appointee.


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To: Pining_4_TX
Every government organization also has an OIG (office of investigations thing) even NOAA and NASA. The people who work in these divisions are law enforcement people and they investigate crimes such as fraud and corruption. They are also armed, and they have frequent training with their firearms. It’s just one more example of how every government program increases the need for yet another government program.

If what really bothers people is that so many different agencies have these little police forces, perhaps the Administration could propose a consolidated "National Police Force" combining all of them for efficiency?

That would go over real well, I bet.

21 posted on 08/18/2012 9:14:48 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: null and void
Every bullet the gubmint purchases is done so with the intent a human be shot. This cannot be said about civilian ammo purchases.
22 posted on 08/18/2012 9:16:10 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: null and void

Hobbits.


23 posted on 08/18/2012 9:17:07 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Strategerist

So if you are correct, why are these purchSes being “exposed” now?


24 posted on 08/18/2012 9:18:00 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Pining_4_TX

My position is more philosophical in nature. I think the NSA should handle security measures and the other departments should be doing their thing.

If an agency needs an NSA agent or two in every office to provide proper security, I’m fine with that. But having each department having the ability to provide security and investigate its own problems gives them incentives rlthey should not have.


25 posted on 08/18/2012 9:22:17 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: vette6387

Because there are peple in this world, on the right and left side politically, that are inclined to believe that no matter who is in office, if they are an opposition candidate, they are part of a GRAND GLOBAL CONSPIRACY engineering THE END OF AMERICA. And they always have “proof” of this, half from unnamed anecdotal sources, the other half being continuations of policies from previous administrations.


26 posted on 08/18/2012 9:23:28 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

http://forums.officer.com/t105979/

“Federal law makes it illegal for anyone with a felony warrant to collect SSI or SSA benefits. Therefore SSA/OIG/OI Special Agents can pursue anyone on any felony warrant who is trying to collect benefits.

When I worked a fugitive task force we had SSA/OIG/OI agents working with us too. If someone is wanted for on state charge for child molestation, but is also collecting benefits, that is a viable fugitive case for SSA/OIG. The felony warrant could be anything a felony habitual traffic offender to someone wanted for murder.”

“lso, describing SSA or SSI benefits fraud as “white collar” shows that the person making that claim has little to no understanding of what those cases are really like. Benefits fraud in those cases is often committed by drug addicts, recently released felons, etc, etc. An SSA/OIG/OI will not likely work a fraud case that fit the typical image of “white collar” crime.”


27 posted on 08/18/2012 9:23:37 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: null and void; Revolting cat!
"Social Security Administration"......... good granny bad granny "typical white person ... used racial slurs (describing his grandmother)" B. Obama .... and waits for the G-men with a tray of cookies and a Ruger .44 magnum flattop.
28 posted on 08/18/2012 9:26:09 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: null and void

Us..


29 posted on 08/18/2012 9:27:19 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Typically this kind of ammunition is typically not used for target practice. That cuts a wide swath in the ‘training’ justification. This ammunition is intended to be a very effective and brutal killer.


30 posted on 08/18/2012 9:27:31 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Typically this kind of ammunition is typically not used for target practice. That cuts a wide swath in the ‘training’ justification. This ammunition is intended to be a very effective and brutal killer.


31 posted on 08/18/2012 9:28:32 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: vette6387
So if you are correct, why are these purchSes being “exposed” now?

People just happened to notice them now.

Government solicitations have been public on Fed Biz Opps for years.

So all it took is someone not-very-bright to stumble across the NHS ones, not understand what they were looking at, then make no effort TO find someone that could actually understand what an IDIQ solicitation is, and they simply ran with the wacky conspiracy theories.

Then once the DHS solitications were found, people were frantically searching Fed Biz Opps for every solicitation they could find, and found the SSA and the supposed "NWS" (actually NMFS) small ammo purchases.

It's yet another tale of people suddenly finding information on the internet that's always been out there, but not having the knowledge to understand what they are looking at, and then spreading it through a blog network of idiots.

32 posted on 08/18/2012 9:29:45 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: null and void
Who Does The Government Intend To Shoot?

Anyone running at them or from them anyone agreeing with them or disputing them which means just about anyone they want to shoot !

Even if they did trust you they know you don't trust them and they can't chance you turning on them at any critical moment !

33 posted on 08/18/2012 9:33:33 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: null and void

WATCH: Police gun down Michigan man with 46 shots in 5 seconds

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2920241/posts


34 posted on 08/18/2012 9:37:25 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: null and void
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

So you think your photo of a Nazi executing a mother and child portrays a "nut-job conspiracy"?

You think that didn't actually happen?

Screw you.

35 posted on 08/18/2012 9:37:31 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Anyone running at them or from them anyone agreeing with them or disputing them which means just about anyone they want to shoot !

I like this policy. I'd use it - covers all the bases. Best to play it safe.
36 posted on 08/18/2012 9:37:43 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: null and void

Glazers hurt worse....

Facsists. I have no idea who I can defend myself against anymore.

Just have to take my chances.


37 posted on 08/18/2012 9:38:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: null and void

Well, 0bama a few months back floated a trial balloon threatening to withhold military pay. Imagine how angry some would get if he ordered the withholding of SENIOR’S SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS? Seniors aren’t like today’s anti-gun, lemming youth.. Seniors are armed and more likely to revolt!


38 posted on 08/18/2012 9:47:38 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Talisker
Nope. I am CERTAIN it happened.

And equally certain it can happen again, and happen here.

39 posted on 08/18/2012 9:48:05 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1307 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Psalm 144

I think the Dems and Dear Reader really got furious when the Tea Party showed up at their town hall meetings and gave them the what for on socialized death care. Then they tried to pretend we were nobodies and we went to DC...

They were so coddled by the DNC media and self deluded that they thought they would sail right through to global communism and people would be to stupid to know what they were doing. The GOP was barely making a peep.

And then...my to the GOP’s dismay, all of a sudden their world came crashing down and their agenda side lined. Obama has been enacting law by EO and illegally through Fed minions, but he is really taking the risk of getting slapped down.

So...who knows what Dear Reader is going to do with all his bullets. One thing is for sure - the military ran a civil war game and tagged the Tea Party as the enemy to be attacked. Our self annointed elitists are psychopaths.


40 posted on 08/18/2012 9:49:43 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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