Posted on 06/20/2012 7:00:40 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
In which case you'd be wrong.
They are talking about a made-up definition of Natural Born Citizen that has found no support outside the birther clown car that shows up on every Rubio and Jindal thread. No support in any court, with any influential conservative commentator or conservative legal foundation. It is a definition embraced by crackpots and unhinged cranks that nobody else is buying.
Great idea. A pro-Amnesty RINO as a VP for a pro-Amnesty, pro-Abortion, pro-Gay, gun grabbing RINO President.
At least McCain had Palin.
More and more I’m thinking about leaving the president box blank.
Take a Kool Aid break. Rubio is an ineligible RINO. He’s Mr. Amnesty. A recent poll shows Rubio does nothing to help Mitt in Fla. Mitt is going to pick someone from a swing state who can help him over the top. Look for Portman, McDonnell, Pawlenty etc as the VP pick.
Both natural-born and naturalized citizens are citizens. But only the former are eligible to be president. Since a VP can be called upon to be president under special circumstances, he too must meet the eligibility requirements. Minor vs. Happersett references Article II, Section 1 and defines what the Constitution means by "natural-born" citizen and thereby creates a binding legal precedent:
“Additions might always be made to the citizenship of the United States in two ways: first, by birth, and second, by naturalization. This is apparent from the Constitution itself, for it provides that ‘no person except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President,‘and that Congress shall have power ‘to establish a uniform rule of naturalization.’ Thus new citizens may be born or they may be created by naturalization.“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
Thus, NBCs and other citizens alive at the time of the founding were eligible. Only the former are eligible now, since I presume that the latter have all died.
I don't think Rubio is QUALIFIED to be VP, but he may be ELIGIBLE.
The Constitution establishes "eligibility" for the office of president. Since, Rubio's parents were not citizens of the US when he was born, he is not natural born. Therefore, he is NOT eligible.
Now you got me to respond.... I would hold off on Pam Bondi. She has been on team Romney since it was uncool to be on team Romney; back when it looked like we could get a real conservative to win nomination and not a rino. She sounded once on Fox News like she might be part of a Romney administration and pass on us Romneycare. I’m hoping that isn’t the case, but I am not exactly on team Pam Bondi.
There are a lot of good women like Michele Bachmann and Renee Ellmers who could be better choices, but being a Romney running mate is toxic at this moment so they would probably say no.
Plus if you believe reports, Romney is against nominating a woman.
Because ABC news reported close sources that Rubio wasn't being vetted by Romney. The Rubio RINO backers and his backers in the media cried and whined about it, which prompted Romney to state he's being vetted.
And BTW, Rubio is not constitutionally qualified for Vice President.
I respect Bolton.
In the beginning I thought Rubio was going to be a great Conservative. However, after a few speeches and his ramblings on immigration I quickly saw that he was an unprincipled opportunist.
There are millions of Americans who sound good on defense. Rubio is a smooth talker, I grant him that. But his experience base is quite limited. It would do him good to be humbled in the private sector.
I am sick and tired of fellow citizens who start their life off going into "public service." For me, that is a signal that such people view the State as the highest ideal. Never again will I consider supporting anyone who has been drawn at a young age into politics.
The best citizens to serve would be those who do so after spending time in the "real world" dealing with sadistic bureaucrats and insane regulations.
Please reconsider putting Rubio on some pedestal of greatness. His great accomplishment in life is the spoken word.
Rubio is the man and all you weasels on this thread won’t change that.
Just what we need, a pro-amnesty, Bush property RINO with less experience than Obama had four years ago.
Hey, thanks for the info..I confess, this was a chancey call for Bondi...
But if she’s a Rom-bot so much the better for Romney and she is a Bammacare foe in the forefront.
For Romney to even have rumors out that he doesn’t want a woman bodes ill for us all...talk about limiting yourself intentionally.
This race is for Romney to lose and some days I think he’s in it to do just that....we’re doomed!
Cheers....
“Mom was a citizen, not dad apparently”
So from a strictly legal perspective, Rubio is in the same boat as Obama, with an American citizen mother but not American citizen father? And the questions of their “natural born citizen[ship]” remains “in doubt.”
I really resent SCOTUS for not taking up the question of what the Framers meant by that term. Not being able to run for POTUS is not the worst thing in the world, but it would be nice to have clarity on who is and who is not a ‘natural born citizen.’ It will become a vastly increased question as generations of ‘anchor babies’ come of age.
He is a very attractive person but one who puts his ambition before what is good for the nation—the cardinal sin of all bad leaders. He is selling us out. He wants to get as many Hispanic votes as possible so he will do everything to increase the number of Hispanic immigrants as much as possible. Hispanics in politics have to stop and think about how they look to others outside of their ethnic block. There are other people out here besides Hispanics. Hispanics have become the teachers pets of politics and as we all remember from our school days, nobody likes the teacher’s-pet.
You notice that the skin tone game only goes one way.
I don't think that was the interpretation. Maybe you know that but didn't express it well here.
Nobody doubts that naturalized parents can have NBC children, because they are citizens when their children are born.
The question is only whether the parent is not a citizen when the child is born, not what kind of citizen the parent is when the child is born.
-PJ
This arming the “rebels” in Syria concerns me because if there is one thing that we have learned about the Middle East it is that the next guy is always worse. We have to get out of the Woodrow Wilson type of belief in democracy as a form of missionary work. George W. Bush was really big into this.
We have to have a comprehensive and far-sighted foreign policy that looks at the world in a realistic way. Most countries throughout history have been run by bad leaders. We just can’t go around the world planting democracy like we are planting tulips.
Rubio was born in 1971, his parents were naturalized in 1975. Rubio is not a “natural born citizen”
Rubio was born in 1971, his parents were naturalized in 1975. Rubio is not a “natural born citizen”
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