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Free Republic ^ | 6/6/12 | marron

Posted on 06/08/2012 7:59:51 AM PDT by Kartographer

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To: ansel12

Bill Ayers and his ilk are the death camp operators and the mass murderers among us, and they are drooling in anticipation of doing what they have dreamed of for decades. Murder twenty five million plus Americans because the rest of us don’t want their communism.


121 posted on 06/08/2012 3:12:35 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: null and void

LOL, Where is the “it”? Where are the death camps, the horrors? Where is the blood in the streets? Equilibrium came about and after the left reaching their peak in the 1960s they started getting rolled back, by 1980 we had elected Ronald Reagan, mainstream America has been making gains ever since.

You think that we are on the verge of mass insanity and becoming Mao’s Red Guard and killing 30 or 40 millions of us because we have human DNA and Americans are no different than the nation of China, or Germany, I think that is absurd, Americans have a culture and a governmental system which enables us to stay within the lines.


122 posted on 06/08/2012 3:26:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: W. W. SMITH

Yes, Bill Ayers exists, but he isn’t going to fulfill his death camp/mass murder of 25 million nonsense.


123 posted on 06/08/2012 3:36:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

A difference in degree, not in kind.


124 posted on 06/08/2012 4:15:30 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1235 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: null and void

LOL, fantasy and insanity.

Since I was involved in one of those incidents, and that period in America, I can tell you that it had nothing “in kind” with Nazi death camps and Mao’s massacre of tens of millions, and Pol pot.


125 posted on 06/08/2012 4:23:42 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: Obadiah; Kartographer

Oh, I don’t know about the long slow slide. Russia just tested an ICBM last night that was visible all over the Middle East; I assume that news made it to FR.


126 posted on 06/08/2012 4:25:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: W. W. SMITH

In answer to your freepmail.

No, I know who Ayers is, but you seem not to, he is a part of the political picture, and a not very effective one, his only importance is as a dig at Obama.

Farrakhan is more politically effective, wants the same exact thing or worse, has more followers and they are better armed and more militant, yet you don’t stay awake at night because of him, because you know that his hopes will never come to fruition, they are just a radical’s dreams.

You cannot elevate Ayers into some historical figure of power that can lead us into marching most of America into death camps. He exists, he hates us, he is involved in politics, but he is not a great figure of importance or influence.


127 posted on 06/08/2012 4:29:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: W. W. SMITH

In answer to your freepmail.

No, I know who Ayers is, but you seem not to, he is a part of the political picture, and a not very effective one, his only importance is as a dig at Obama.

Farrakhan is more politically effective, wants the same exact thing or worse, has more followers and they are better armed and more militant, yet you don’t stay awake at night because of him, because you know that his hopes will never come to fruition, they are just a radical’s dreams.

You cannot elevate Ayers into some historical figure of power that can lead us into marching most of America into death camps. He exists, he hates us, he is involved in politics, but he is not a great figure of importance or influence.


128 posted on 06/08/2012 4:30:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

“but he is not a great figure of importance or influence”

Bill Ayres’ influence on the structure and practice of most state educational systems, K-16, is considered THE standard. It is there that his radicalism has infected every level. The most radical ideas in the smallest people, and the small school incubation of the larger worldviews. His is the construct, and he, the architect.


129 posted on 06/08/2012 4:33:58 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: ansel12
LOL, fantasy and insanity.

I certainly hope so!

130 posted on 06/08/2012 4:36:15 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1235 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: ansel12; null and void

Americans aren’t Nazis death camp operators, and Communist mass murderers just waiting to emerge.


I think there’d be quite a few qualified applicants, enough to do the job, anyway. As well as the kind who’ll do anything for money.


131 posted on 06/08/2012 4:36:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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September 23, 2008.
“Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html
Stanley Kurtz


132 posted on 06/08/2012 4:38:07 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: ansel12

Things like this needs to be burned in to the minds of all who value freedom in this country. The military will do as told. They won't revolt, we won't have a military coup to overthrow a malevolent government. We will be led away at the point of a bayonet.

133 posted on 06/08/2012 4:41:40 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Ever notice that when a beggar gets a donation, they immediately put their hand out for more.)
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To: little jeremiah
I think there’d be quite a few qualified applicants, enough to do the job, anyway. As well as the kind who’ll do anything for money.

The issue is are we getting ready for some odd reason, to decide to vote to have some small number of wackos round us (Christians and mainstream America) all up and put us in death camps? No, because, "Americans aren’t Nazis death camp operators, and Communist mass murderers just waiting to emerge."

134 posted on 06/08/2012 4:44:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: Sarajevo

Thanks for attacking all of us who are military or veterans.

Those soldiers are protecting children going to school, they are not burning their Christian parents and neighbors in death camps for being Christian.


135 posted on 06/08/2012 4:46:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: combat_boots
Bill Ayres’ influence on the structure and practice of most state educational systems, K-16, is considered THE standard.It is there that his radicalism has infected every level. The most radical ideas in the smallest people, and the small school incubation of the larger worldviews. His is the construct, and he, the architect.

While that is a long way from relevance to someone fearing that he can kill 25 million of us, I don't even buy what you posted.

I would like to see your source for Bill Ayers being the most powerful and influential educator in America and the American system of education.

136 posted on 06/08/2012 4:55:06 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

Ayers runs Obama, therefore Ayers runs America. End of story.


137 posted on 06/08/2012 5:16:44 PM PDT by Marcella (God wouldn't vote for Romney so I won't, either.)
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To: Marcella

I doubt that Ayers can even get a call through today, but it sure isn’t going to lead to death camps in America.

It doesn’t even look like Obama has the power to win reelection, I don’t anticipate him getting away with declaring martial law and sending the Army to round us up.


138 posted on 06/08/2012 5:27:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

I’m a bit confused by your reply to me. I am sure there are enough people in America who are evil enough to be death camp or gulag guards, or Babi Yar executioners.

I also do not think that Christians or conservatives or recalcitrants of any kind will be rounded up en masse and sent to camps. Why? Because there are too many recalcitrants and we are armed and the mil isn’t all bad, many are good guys who will not go along with such plans, and the US is too big.

Do I think there will be violence and hardship ahead?

You bet.


139 posted on 06/08/2012 5:29:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: ansel12

His influence goes back to the early 1990s. He is one of several. The acolytes infest the state education agencies and non-profits.

Here’s one article’s big snip:

April 25, 2008
“Bill Ayers and the Subversion of Education”
By Ed Lasky
“Possibly relying on connections that Ayers’ wealthy father had in Chicago, Ayers and Dohrn were able to land sinecures in academia. Thus, Obama was able to dismiss Ayers as a “Professor of English”. On his website, Barack Obama has this to say about Ayers:

“Ayers is a tenured professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago and a ‘respected advisor’ to Mayor Daley on School Reform”

Barack Obama has been attempting to burnish Ayers’ reputation by characterizing him as a university professor — still one of the more honored and respected professions in America. He peddled the notion that Ayers is an educator now and this should absolve him of the burden of his bomber background.

However, what has Ayers done for academia? He has continued to wreak harm — just in a different but longer lasting way.

Sol Stern of the Manhattan Institute has done masterful work over the years commenting on the state of education in America. Two years ago, he wrote about Ayers in “The Ed Schools’ Latest-and Worst-Humbug”. The article is a revelation. Ayers may have given up on the bombs, but he has found our nation’s classrooms an ideal way to promote his revolutionary and anti-American views. Stern returned to the subject of Ayers’ influence this week.

While attending Columbia University Teachers College in 1984 he had an epiphany. He adopted the views of one of his professors, Maxine Greene-a leader in the “critical pedagogy” movement. What did he take away from the course? An ideology that he has promoted throughout his career — and one that has very little to do with education but has a great deal to do with radicalism. Stern writes:

As Ayers wrote later, he took fire from Greene’s lectures on how the “oppressive hegemony” of the capitalist social order “reproduces” itself through the traditional practice of public schooling-critical pedagogy’s fancy way of saying that the evil corporations exercise thought control through the schools.

Greene told future teachers that they could help change this bleak landscape by developing a “transformative” vision of social justice and democracy in their classrooms. Her vision, though, was a far cry from the democratic optimism of the Founding Fathers, Abraham Lincoln, and Martin Luther King Jr., which most parents would endorse. Instead, critical pedagogy theorists nurse a rancorous view of an America in which it is always two minutes to midnight and a knock on the door by the thought police is imminent. The education professors feel themselves anointed to use the nation’s K-12 classrooms to resist this oppressive system. Thus Maxine Greene urged teachers not to mince words with children about the evils of the existing social order. They should portray “homelessness as a consequence of the private dealings of landlords, an arms buildup as a consequence of corporate decisions, racial exclusion as a consequence of a private property-holder’s choice.” In other words, they should turn the little ones into young socialists and critical theorists.

All music to Bill Ayers’s ears. The ex-Weatherman glimpsed a new radical vocation. He dreamed of bringing the revolution from the streets to the schools. And that’s exactly what he has managed to do.

Ayers has subsequently written a best seller used in ed-school courses which focuses on the moral imperative of teaching social justice to students in K-12 classrooms. He has been active in “teaching teachers” that capitalism is a curse and imperialism is an American obsession.

Social justice is a noble sounding pursuit; one we should all applaud. However, the devil is in the details. What precisely are the views that Ayers is promoting?

His course description for teachers signing up for his course on “Urban Education”:

“Homelessness, crime, racism, oppression-we have the resources and knowledge to fight and overcome these things.”

“We need to look beyond our isolated situations, to define our problems globally. We cannot be child advocates . . . in Chicago or New York and ignore the web that links us with the children of India or Palestine.”

“In a truly just society there would be a greater sharing of the burden, a fairer distribution of material and human resources.”

For another course, titled “Improving Learning Environments,” Ayers proposes that teachers “be aware of the social and moral universe we inhabit and . . . be a teacher capable of hope and struggle, outrage and action, a teacher teaching for social justice and liberation.”

The readings that Ayers assigns are as intellectually stimulating and diverse as a political commissar’s indoctrination session in one of his favorite communist tyrannies. The reading list for his urban education course includes the bible of the critical pedagogy movement, Brazilian Marxist Paolo Freire’s Pedagogy of the Oppressed; two books by Ayers himself; another by bell hooks, a radical black feminist writer and critical race theorist; and a “Freedom School” curriculum. That’s the entire spectrum of debate.

Ayers teaches another course, “Social Conflicts of the 1960s” that promotes the agitprop from his and Dohrn’s Weather Underground Days. Paulo Freire was also a leading theoretician of Liberation Theology, which advocated that schools be used to promote revolutionary fervor and actions among the “oppressed” — which in Freire’s view included most of the world. Liberation theology is also advocated by Pastor Jeremiah Wright, which he has promoted through his pulpit for decades. While the liberation theology pushed by the Pastor has its roots in the work of James Cone, which fuses liberation theology with the cause of African-American liberation and activism, the work of Freire and Cone draw upon the same conceptual foundations.

Instead of educating teachers to prepare their students for the real world, and to acculturate immigrant children into the civic culture of America, Ayers is helping to create a cadre of teachers who will promote a view that is radically at odds with the mores of most Americans and that is divorced from the traditions of education in America.

A little over 10 years ago, Ayers and Greene were able to get a series of books on education published. Ayers was editor and Green served on the editorial board (with Rashid Khalidi — a supporter of the Palestinian cause, the Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies at Columbia University. Khalidi also has ties with Barack Obama that have been widely reported when journalists cover Obama’s extensive support for the Palestinians, most recently in the Los Angeles Times “Allies of Palestinians see a friend in Barack Obama”).

How should teachers teach science, for example? According to one of the books, Ayers and Greene approved for publishing,

“The marriages between capitalism and education and capitalism and science have created a foundation for science education that emphasizes corporate values at the expense of social justice and human dignity.” The alternative? “Science pedagogy framed around social justice concerns can become a medium to transform individuals, schools, communities, the environment, and science itself, in ways that promote equity and social justice. Creating a science education that is transformative implies not only how science is a political activity but also the ways in which students might see and use science and science education in ways transformative of the institutional and interpersonal power structures that play a role in their lives.”

Similar gobblygook applies to the teaching of math. Eric Gutstein teaches with Ayers and, according to Stern, is a Marxist ideologue. He has politicized his math classes and proudly notes that his course has made — and will make generations of students — more aware of the injustices built into capitalist society. One way of doing this is by using unequal wealth distribution to teach fractions.

Stern admirably reports on the growth of this “social justice” based educational system throughout America. Sixteen of the top educational schools in America — that shape the leaders of our educational system — are heavily influenced by this type of “teaching”, Education is replaced by agitprop.

Courses that taught young children to feel good about being Americans are being replaced by a system that teaches them to be ashamed of being Americans. Spreading out from the schools that teach our teachers, the ideology that is promoted by William Ayers is revolutionary and anti-American. Ayers has entered his sixties, his lust for violence seems to have diminished, but his revolutionary ardor has not. Instead of planting bombs, he has been a key force in harming our schools and our children.

Ayers was a subversive when he was with the Weatehr Undergound. He is still a subversive, but does his work behind the scenes and with a broader canvass to draw upon. He no longer may lead small gang of bombers but is reaching and shaping a much larger number of people that capitalism is not only bad, but should be fought.

All this courtesy of the taxpayers who might otherwise be assuaged by Barack Obama’s assurance that Ayers is a “respected educator”.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/bill_ayers_and_the_subversion.html

Deconstruction of text
Ed Philosophy
Studs Terkel
“Teaching as a Subversive Activity”

Look not only at the curricula of K-12, but also of Colleges of Ed. Everyone is taught his thoughts, him and his ‘cohort.’

Communities of Practice
Self-organizing systems
Cohort
The argument over what exactly IS basic education
“Service learning”
Thematic studies as model curricula
Oh yes. _ _ _ (”xYZ”) ‘justice’

The radicals have captured the flagship of American education at the highest AND deepest levels. Witness Arne Duncan’s policies. Ayres is right there.

THis goes back to Ayres. Dewey’s dead and Carnegie units only good at ringing bells. The absence of teaching people to think is part and parcel of this.

If you consider the mind-numbing classes and people coming out of school as needing to be told what to do—as a norm—(even current medical residents, in some cases)—you have the core group of “good Germans” right there.

You don’t have to believe me, ansel12. It’s true, though. All those men who escaped Nam by fleeing to the ivory tower now reside in university presidents’ and local/state/national executive offices.

More articles on Ayres’ influence:
http://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Social-Justice-Education-William/dp/0805859284

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/townhallcomstaff/2011/07/25/bill_ayers_decries_on-going_education_reforms_in_socialist_magazine

From Discover the Networks:

“In 1995, Ayers — whose stated educational objective is to “teach against [the] oppression” allegedly inherent in American society — founded a “school reform organization” called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), which granted money to far-left groups and causes such as the community organization ACORN. Ayers’ teacher-training programs, which were funded by CAC, were designed to serve as “sites of resistance” against an oppressive social system.

Ayers also created, in collaboration with longtime communist Mike Klonsky, the so-called “Small Schools Movement” (SSM), where individual schools committed themselves to the promotion of specific political themes and pushed students to “confront issues of inequity, war, and violence.” A chief goal of SSM is to teach students that American capitalism is a racist, materialistic doctrine that has done incalculable harm to societies all over the world. One of the more infamous students to attend an SSM school (Mountain View High School in Arizona) was Jared Lee Loughner, the gunman who — on January 8, 2011 in Tucson — shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the head, leaving her in critical condition. Loughner also sprayed gunfire at others in the vicinity, wounding thirteen and killing six.

In 1999 Ayers joined the Woods Fund of Chicago, where he served as a board member alongside Barack Obama until December 2002, at which time Obama left. Ayers went on to become Woods’ board chairman.”
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualprofile.asp?indid=2169


140 posted on 06/08/2012 5:33:30 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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