Posted on 06/02/2012 8:59:58 PM PDT by No One Special
You assume that the military and the agencies would act against the citizens. That is not the take I get.
My father-in-law was in the weapons business 40 years. I know many of his old employees and friends. They will not be turned.
Some of my OKie friends in McAlester and some of my Texas friends in Amarillo supply the talons for our birds. I know the type of people who furnish such stuff. They are still patriots.
Is that because you don’t “like” the Catholic church? I am a Catholic and I always hear from those I had considered to be perfectly reasonable people things like “I hate the Catholic Church” from people who have never darkened the door of the Catholic church and have no clue what they are talking about. I have seen ridiculous lies on the internet about nuns held in dungeons in Europe, etc.
My Protestant neighbor volunteered she is grateful that the Catholic church is holding the line on infanticide and homosexuality, when almost no one else is.
No one is willing to die for anything these days. But they may find life is not worth living as a slave where nothing is sacred and satan rules. There are fates worse than death
What statement did I make that suggested that?
It appears to me that you like to argue. I don't.
Taking that as a given, I take no comfort in it, because the evil is being advanced stealthily. We must always remember that the vast majority of Americans do not grasp the issue as most of us do.
Even the phrase "render unto Caesar..." has lost its impact since the list of Caesar's now is virtually infinite and the list of God's is constantly shrinking into irrelevance.
Shooting at them won't change that list. The very first thing that needs to happen is that the CHURCH presents HER Declaration of Independence to the Beast Government. Post a list of the specific and detailed usurpations. Beyond that, preach it from the pulpit every Sunday. Make clear the existential threat that we can see. Many do not yet see it.
We can be encouraged that 43 lawsuits were filed against Obama. But that has had no impact on public perception and discourse (that I am aware of), and will have no effect on moving the political process in the short term.
It's up to the laity (of all religious persuasions) to push our spiritual authorities to do the work that only they can do. We must have their backs covered when they nail the Declaration to the Court House door.
Word.
First they came for the Catholics...
Agreed. By destroying the family unit, by destroying independence of action, by destroying morality, by dividing the citizens against each other. Those who seek to destroy this nation are servants of the father-of-lies.
you said “that dog won’t hunt” here in Texas and that oilies and clod farmers and red necks won’t watch the movie?
If that doesn’t mean you won’t watch the movie because it’s Catholic, what does it mean?
I was puzzled by the author’s summoning up the horrors of “rap culture” in this discussion of a movie based on official government attacks, carried out by Federal troops, on Catholic citizens. The very thing that makes the Mexican comparison so frightening is that Mexico was not a state without the rule of law, such as some African state that hasn’t known the rule of law since the colonial powers left, but that all of these things went through their legislature and through elected officials and were enforced by the military. And that is exactly what would happen here.
I don’t think our big problem is going to be armed thugs rampaging in the streets, but a government that already has enormous power and the ability to simply shut things down and go after the people or groups it wants through official means. And I don’t think individual weaponry is going to be much use against this.
It’s possible that Fossil knows many decent military folks, who would risk it all by defying an unjust order, but I think the great majority of them would simply do what they were told. And don’t forget that Bill Clinton did a lot to reshape the military and make it a more politicized culture, and Obama has taken this into overdrive and I would suspect has driven many of the better people out of their military careers and dissuaded others from going in. I think his “gayification” of the armed forces was aimed at this, and you will find that the new PC military is not automatically going to be on the side of the citizens any longer.
It is true that the brutality of rap culture has probably encouraged more brutal attitudes among the young male population (of any color) and that this group in the military might be more inclined to commit atrocities. But it would be in the context of official government-sponsored action and not Third World style rioting.
That said, I don’t think Obama and the left are going to have to resort to violence to suppress the Church, but will rely on economic and legal attacks that will basically harass it out of the public square. Probably religious worship will be permitted, but all other Church activities will be suppressed. I also suspect that the left is working hard to encourage a schism where a “Patriotic Catholic Church” in the Chinese style will be born, and then will be given all the property and institutions of the actual Catholic Church and will be treated by the US government as the genuine Church. Henry VIII did this very effectively through the creation of the Church of England (although back in those days, he did have to use a bit of official torture and brutality to get his point across, even though most of the bishops were quite agreeable to going along with him).
I did not realise the movie was "Catholic".
I know about Mexican politics and culture. I know enough of the History of Mexico to despise what is being forced on the citizen of Mexico.
A fine lady that I went to church with, was run out of Mexico with her family during Poncho Villa's rampage. She owned/operated a cotton gin here for many many years.
The "Left" has been successful in co-opting the Catholic Church in countries in Central America. Example: the Liberation Theology folks in Nicaragua, which enabled the Sandanistas to come to power. I was toe to toe with their surrogates in NM during that era. I know what lefties really are. No illusions.
Yes. Death by a thousand cuts. I am reminded of a Flannery O'Conner line... "She sometimes thought she could be a martyr if they killed her real quick"
LOL! One of my favorite lines!
Do you have any more information on this like a link that would get me up to speed?
This gal is just some kind of awesome. She gets it in a serious way.
Or was the “dog” that wouldn’t hunt Ann Barnhart’s “coming war”? Maybe I misunderstood, I read situations wrong all the time.
Anyway, yes the Liberation Theology is completely heathen and not Christian and yes, the Catholic church was deliberately infiltrated by satan’s minions in the form of communists , homosexuals and pedophiles. Still a remnant of truth struggled through the filth and remains.
That dog won’t hunt in GA either except in Atlanta and for the same reasons. Just remember not to be in Atlanta when the SHTF.
I have my own well and know how to tap into it. As far as using the Second Amendment. The Tea Party was peaceful- at first. Bus loads of legally armed civilians head to DC. Surround the Capitol Building. Let the stand-off begin.
” You assume that the military and the agencies would act against the citizens. That is not the take I get. “
Military action against citizens is not even remotely my point nor the cause for my skepticism. I just look around and see modern reality that these are days of remote control, a new tactic that delivers overwhelming force that can make guns and clips look obsolete.
Big difference, Americans have guns.
The photo says it all. The true story of the Cristeros is stunning and heartbreaking.
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