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1 posted on 05/17/2012 1:28:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Excellent. Thanks for posting this.


2 posted on 05/17/2012 1:32:17 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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Fascinating. Should look this book up myself, to read.


3 posted on 05/17/2012 1:33:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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Thanks for the heads up. I hope it also comes out in Kindle...


4 posted on 05/17/2012 1:38:34 PM PDT by bcsco
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Outstanding, JR. I’ve always been a big fan of Os Guinness. Balanced and insightful.


6 posted on 05/17/2012 1:41:56 PM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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This is from a Rick Santorum speech that he was giving back in 2010 before running for POTUS ...

He quoted Guinness repeatedly, particularly regarding the The Golden Triangle of Freedom.

The movement in our country to fly on "one wing," reason alone, will ultimately undermine the very foundation of our country -- freedom. America is rooted in the founders' belief that free people, whose God-given rights are protected by a government that allows the individual to pursue their dreams and reap the fruits of their labor, would build the most just and prosperous society in the history of man. They were right; freedom was the key ingredient in the American experiment. Our founders understood it was relatively easy to establish freedom in our Constitution, the harder task was to create a system that would maintain it against the corrosive force of time. The author Os Guinness describes how they accomplished this as the Golden Triangle of Freedom: "Freedom requires virtue, virtue requires faith and faith requires freedom and around again."

That freedom requires virtue was explained by the political philosopher Edmund Burke, who wrote: "Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites ... Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters."

Virtue requires faith because faith is the primary teacher of morality. That is not to say that one cannot be virtuous without faith, but for society as a whole faith is the indispensable agent of virtue. Faith requires freedom. Why has America remained a deeply religious country averting the road to secularism traveled by our European brothers and sisters? Again Madison's "true remedy," the combination of "free exercise" and no religious state supported monopoly, has created a vibrant marketplace of religions extolling everywhere the word of God to inspire people to fulfill His special plan for each of us. Our founders' inspired brilliance created a paradigm that has given America the best chance of any civilization in the history of man to endure the test of time. Time, this time now in American history is putting that to the test.

7 posted on 05/17/2012 2:02:27 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Tea Party movement: more obstinate, unyielding and hostile to Democrats Â…)
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I like a lot of what Guinness writes. Unfortunately, he is a real America-basher when speaking. This really turns me off when he does so, which is frequently.


9 posted on 05/17/2012 2:28:05 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Don't vote for anyone who worked for Goldman Sachs)
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In this prickly era, your post of this book inspires us to return to this type of reading. God and faith determine right courage for defending our God given Republic. You did good.


11 posted on 05/17/2012 2:33:17 PM PDT by RitaOK (ABR & ABO Few are unafraid, but I thank God for the few. We are the resistance.)
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On October 11, 1798, President John Adams addressed the officers of the First Brigade of the Third Division of the Militia of Massachusetts in a letter: 'We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.'
13 posted on 05/17/2012 3:14:40 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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