[BigGuy22]

"I don't think I've disputed that there seems to be a "consensus" as to their conclusions."

Thank you. That's the only point I've been trying to make.

"You want to sway opinions here? Bring facts, not votes."

LOL, that's ironic! I don't know what you mean when you talk of "votes," but I certainly have presented a fact, and it's one with which you do not disagree.

[DiogenesLamp]

LOL, that's ironic! I don't know what you mean when you talk of "votes," but I certainly have presented a fact, and it's one with which you do not disagree.

The "fact" that you bring is that a bunch of people (judges) have all voted the same way. Again, this is not proof that they are correct, all the mores so because their reasoning is all over the place.

You keep presenting a consensus as proof of something, and we keep telling you that the actual laws and historical facts disagree with their conclusions.