By “not being forthright” you mean lying repeatedly? Amazing what acts people will justify if they think they are doing “the Lord's work” - but who again is the Father of Lies? Whose work did they do when they lied on the stand? They knew they had to lie - because they had become the servant of lies.
Science has no way of recognizing God or any other supernatural causation. Newton when he wrote about theology was a mess - only when he ascribed natural causes to explain natural phenomena did he do anything currently of any use. Faraday was a man of great faith in God, but he never tried to say the electricity was too complex to understand via natural means and that God had to be involved in the “gaps” of our understanding - which is the central argument of “Incompetent Design”. When Faraday contributed to science it was through ascribing and describing natural causes to explain natural phenomena.
Thomas Jefferson and James Madison were Communists?
They believed in a “Wall of separation” and “a perfect separation” (respectively) of Church and State - and Madison wrote the 1st Amendment based upon that belief and the Statute of Religious Freedom written by Jefferson.
The way science wins is in the real world of ideas.
No oil company is interested in hiring a “creation geologist”. No biotech firm is interested in hiring a “creation biologist”. That is because in the free market of ideas where things are judged on their merits and ability to produce useful results - creationism has been found wanting while science has been found to be amazingly productive.
As shown by your own evidence, the Dover decision did not rule on the scientific merits of “ID!”
"By “not being forthright” you mean lying repeatedly? Amazing what acts people will justify if they think they are doing “the Lord's work” - but who again is the Father of Lies? Whose work did they do when they lied on the stand? They knew they had to lie - because they had become the servant of lies."
One only has to look at the video of what the Kitzmiller lawyers presented, they took the remarks of the 2 out of context. The two tried to explain the remarks but it was not allowed. If what they explained was allowed they would have stood a chance, only the cut video was allowed. What the two were not forthright about was they did not tell their own lawyers about the video. And as for you quoting the Bible; aren't you the one that believes in separation of church and state hypocrite?
As for Newton and Faraday, let's see you source first person on this one.
"Thomas Jefferson and James Madison were Communists?"
They believed in a “Wall of separation” and “a perfect separation” (respectively) of Church and State - and Madison wrote the 1st Amendment based upon that belief and the Statute of Religious Freedom written by Jefferson."
They in no way believed the way you do. They believed that it was one way; that the church had every right to be involved in law and in any state of affairs. Get your facts right.
"The way science wins is in the real world of ideas."
Nope, the only way Evos win is by way of the court and the communist law of separation of church and state on Americans that goes one way; that government can influence and not the church. So you go against what Jefferson and Madison wrote