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To: Sherman Logan; DiogenesLamp
"It is obvious the Pres has access to forgers of the highest quality. So why would he produce a phony certificate that is easily shown to be forged?"

Actually, DL has an intriguing theory on that. Said theory aside, who are these forgers of the highest quality that he can call up and demand spring into action to produce this masterpiece of a fugazzi? These charlatans have been bluffing, bullying and race-carding their way through this entire diabolical saga from the beginning and didn't count on Donald Trump "going 'birther'". They rushed this thing, because they never expected to be called on it in the national media by a well known, charismatic personality who's very hard to ignore.

"There are only two possibilities I can see."

Really? Just two? That seems a bit. . . myopic.

"In fact, the “fakeness” of it makes it more likely to be real."

Okay, that just doesn't make any logical sense. Did you read the article?

"It is obvious to me that if this were the case, intelligence officers would have brought WMDs along to be “found.” You can believe Bush to be stupid if you like, but certainly some of his handlers were not dumb."

I don't think that Bush is either stupid or dishonorable. Likewise, I don't think that's an apt analogy.

You're of the opinion that you think the "birth certificate" released by the WH on 27 April 2011 isn't fake. Got it. Your arguments to that effect however, could use a bit of buttressing. Throwing around terms like Occam's Razor does nothing in that regard if the follow up argument is less than solid.

10 posted on 04/10/2012 3:24:13 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Said theory aside, who are these forgers of the highest quality that he can call up and demand spring into action to produce this masterpiece of a fugazzi?

.Unless I'm mistaken, there are a number of intelligence agencies working for the president.

I believe the production of false documents is a not uncommon activity of such agencies.

I'm highly agnostic on the whole subject.

I also think it is irrelevant. The Constitution allows for only one method of refusing a president from office, impeachment. There is, and should not be, any way for a lawsuit to remove him.

Of course, we the people have an opportunity to remove him this year, if we so choose.

20 posted on 04/10/2012 6:31:09 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Actually, DL has an intriguing theory on that. Said theory aside, who are these forgers of the highest quality that he can call up and demand spring into action to produce this masterpiece of a fugazzi? These charlatans have been bluffing, bullying and race-carding their way through this entire diabolical saga from the beginning and didn't count on Donald Trump "going 'birther'". They rushed this thing, because they never expected to be called on it in the national media by a well known, charismatic personality who's very hard to ignore.

I don't think they rushed it. I think this is the normal standard of quality for replacement birth certificates from The DOH in Hawaii.

*IF* it was created by the Department of Health in Hawaii as a replacement birth certificate per a Judge's order, it was only intended to pass a cursory inspection, not the detailed Anal-probe it received from we "birthers." :)

I have been thinking about how to better convey my theory to others who seem resistant to it, and I think I've figured out a way to make the idea more clear. Here it goes:

Significant event number 1: (1965)
There are six pieces of circumstantial evidence of which I am aware that Indicates Lolo Soetoro legally adopted Barack Obama in 1965. *IF* Barack Obama was legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro, then he WOULD have been issued a NEW BIRTH CERTIFICATE showing Lolo Soetoro as his Father on his birth certificate, and his original birth document would have been sealed by the Adoption court.

Once again, *IF* Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, then he is GUARANTEED to have a "replacement birth certificate" i.e. a legal but "fake" document.

Once again, I will mention that I am aware of six pieces of circumstantial evidence which indicate Lolo Soetoro did indeed adopt Barack Obama.

Significant Event number 2: (1971)
From 1971 onward, Barack Obama lived with his Grandparents while his mother went back to Indonesia. During Christmas of 1971, both Barack Obama Sr. AND Stanley Ann Dunham happened to be in Hawaii at exactly the same time. Barack Sr. was said to have been there for some "family business". A review of Hawaiian Adoption law indicates that the Birth Father has absolute rights regarding a subsequent adoption of his child. His permission MUST be sought, and his acquiescence MUST be obtained.

From various bits and pieces of circumstantial evidence it is a virtual certainty that Barack Obama Sr was in Hawaii to grant his permission for the Adoption of Barack Obama II by his grandparents.

If either or both of the above two significant events occurred as suggested, then Barack Obama is guaranteed to have a "replacement birth certificate" and not an original. His current document is guaranteed to be a fabrication by the Department of Health in Hawaii per a Judge's order.

21 posted on 04/10/2012 7:20:00 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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