Multiple suspensions paint complicated portrait of Trayvon Martin

Miami Herald article via Pat Dollard Blog ^ | 3/26/12

[Nachum]

So just what was his punk-ass doing in that neighborhood that night at that hour? Is George Zimmerman actually a hero?

Excerpted from MiamiHerald

[ebshumidors]

Gosh, I don’t know what is worse, predators or the stupid sheep.

[cynwoody]

Really? Come on, this is a 17 year old kid with no history of violence who was likely shot because of a tragic misunderstanding.

This was a 17-year-old kid who got shot because he was beating the hell out of a neighborhood watch captain who had merely asked what he was doing.

He may or may not have had a prior history of such violence, but there can be little doubt he was a wannabe! E.g., have a look at his Twitter account. Here is the inspiring background picture he chose to set the tone for visitors to his Twitter page:

That's the mug shot of rapper Corey Miller, aka C-Murder, who is doing life without parole for beating up and shooting to death 16-year-old Steve Thomas in 2002 at a night club in Harvey, Louisiana. Quite the hero for Trayvon to worship!

We should all thank George Zimmerman for taking out the garbage!

[jonrick46]

Here is ABC’s report. There is good information here. Still, no one has given the reason why Trayvon Martin was searched for the pot pipe and baggy of trace pot. Here is the link:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-shooter-teenager-gun/story?id=16000239#.T3Fm6NmczTq

[TigersEye]

However, the fact remains that we should do everything possible to judge this case on its individual merits, aside from any political/racial issues.

The courts are the place for deciding cases of possible criminal actions on their merits. Political/racial social issues are most decidedly in the public domain. You've got things bass ackwards.

[FreeFromWhat]

How about I drop you off in North Memphis at midnight and you can tell me all about your night.?

LOL, I've never been, and since it's 1AM I can totally picture it. Nevertheless, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't follow any suspicious black men around.

I'm off to bed. Sorry for not answering any of the other posts addressed to me.

[ebshumidors]

I’ll make you a deal. I’ll give you $1000 for every black killed by a white and you give me $1000 for every white killed by a black. Zimmerman was part hispanic so he doesn’t count unless Obama is white. Play or shut up, jackwagon.

[M1911A1]

Well, if a lot of people in that situation would strike first, then a lot of people deserve to get shot. End of story.

You can’t deliver an unprovoked beating on somebody who has been following you just because you don’t like the looks of them.

Well, I guess you can, but if you end up shot then you get what you deserve.

[JLS]

“And even if Martin struck first I still think the attacks on his character are completely gratuitous. A lot of people in that situation would strike first.”

That is because you foolishly think this is about Martin and justice. This is as I said in another post about ginning up the base and keeping political power. The people doing this are merely using Martin. They care not a whit about him. In that battle, who Martin really is matters. They are implying he was this nice kid attack by an evil white guy. So the truth about who Martin is matters in this public discourse.

Now if we end up on a jury together deciding this case, nothing about either Martin’s or Zimmerman’s past matters. All that matters is the evidence. But we are not in that courtroom now. The political theatre is important too.

[TigersEye]

Thanks for the link. Here a couple you might be interested in if you haven't seen them.

Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head

And this one written by Massad Ayoob the well-known detective and firearms expert who talks about why it is likely they struggled for the gun.

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN AND TRAYVON MARTIN: WHAT WE DON’T KNOW

[FreeFromWhat]

“Really? You would just up and coldcock somebody because they were watching you? Maybe you need an anger management class or something.”

Watching me? No. Following me? Maybe. It’s not a question of anger but of whether or not I would feel threatened. And yes, someone following me around at night would most likely feel pretty threatening.

OK, I’m really off to bed now.

[SatinDoll]

Six years ago when I had an insomniac night, I was looking out our back window at the street that runs along the ridge about 100 yds. away and uphill. It is lit by streetlights so I had an excellent view.

A vehicle pulled up and idled under the street light. Three people, all dressed in black with hoodies got out and ran in three different directions. Knowing how odd it was, I telephoned the police. In about ten minutes the three people were back, in the vehicle, which then left the area. Twenty minutes later the cops showed up.

Later I discovered a city-wide “treasure hunt” for clues had been sponsored that night by one of the high schools.

Dressing in black was a dumb idea. The cops later said they were run ragged that night. The high school never did another.

[ebshumidors]

LOL. You probably learned all you know about blacks on TV. There are good ones and bad ones. The ones with gold teeth and tatoos probably don’t like you.

[trappedincanuckistan]

Going by the transcripts of the phone call Zimmerman followed Martin when he ran. Zimmerman lost Martin. Therefore, Martin was in no danger. He could have just walked home. It looks like he turned around and pursued Zimmerman as he was on his way back to his truck.

[TigersEye]

If you just throw a punch at someone because you feel threatened because they were following you then you deserve what you get right up to getting shot. That's emotionally unstable.

[FreeFromWhat]

"I’ll make you a deal. I’ll give you $1000 for every black killed by a white and you give me $1000 for every white killed by a black. Zimmerman was part hispanic so he doesn’t count unless Obama is white. Play or shut up, jackwagon."

Dammit people, please let me go to bed.

I refuse to play because this is not a game. This is not white vs. black. This is simply a case of an unarmed 17 year old being shot to death. Whether or not you believe Zimmerman was defending himself, there is absolutely no need to portray Martin as a thug. I am clicking the X in the right hand corner of my screen as soon as I click post. Yes I am.

[TigersEye]

The incident between Zimmerman and Martin is not the only thing that is happening. If it was we wouldn't be talking about it and there wouldn't be any threads about it. This is about the race-baiting story the race pimps and the media have made out of it.

You can divorce yourself from that reality if you want to but it's still the reality of what is happening. They are having marches about this in Oakland CA for crying out loud so you can't credibly say this is only about what happened that night.

[goseminoles]

Night? Dude, it’s not even dark at 7:00..

[jonrick46]

If they were fighting over the gun, it is anyone’s guess who would have got control of the gun and shot the other. It was a fight to kill or be killed. In this case, Zimmerman got control and shot Martin before he could take the gun away from him with deadly consequences. If this happened, Florida’s “stand your ground” doctrine does not even apply here. It is self-defense, pure and simple.

[cynwoody]

Night? Dude, it’s not even dark at 7:00..

U.S. Naval Observatory
Astronomical Applications Department

Sun and Moon Data for One Day

The following information is provided for Sanford, Seminole County, Florida (longitude W81.3, latitude N28.8):

        Sunday   
        26 February 2012      Eastern Standard Time          

                         SUN
        Begin civil twilight       6:30 a.m.                 
        Sunrise                    6:54 a.m.                 
        Sun transit               12:38 p.m.                 
        Sunset                     6:23 p.m.                 
        End civil twilight         6:46 p.m.                 

                         MOON
        Moonset                    9:56 p.m. on preceding day
        Moonrise                   9:16 a.m.                 
        Moon transit               4:00 p.m.                 
        Moonset                   10:49 p.m.                 
        Moonrise                   9:53 a.m. on following day

 

Phase of the Moon on 26 February:   waxing crescent with 20% of the Moon's visible disk illuminated.

First quarter Moon on 29 February 2012 at 8:22 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.

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