correction: I should have written someONE entered the US from Kenya between July 31, 1961 and June 30, 1962...
Posted on 03/23/2012 10:58:19 PM PDT by Red Steel
A thought. May not be remembering correctly. When “Ann” visited the friend in Seattle with infant son, did she not say that she was staying with a friend of her mother’s and that she’d borrowed the car to drive to see her friend? Could mother’s friend have actually been paternal half-aunt Eleanor Berkebile, who lived in Canada with her husband Ralph, who was at the time in the US military?
I think that’s what Fred Nerks has suggested. And it seems like a reasonable guess.
They say that even statistical reports, compiled on the taxpayers’ dime, aren’t available to the public? Figures!
This stuff was regularly published back then. I bet there are copies at the universities in Hawaii.
I seriously doubt that the IBM punchcards were their index. Sometimes, the cards didn’t even have a printed interpretation along the top, which means a person had to decipher the pattern of the holes in order to figure out what the card said!
The punchcards may have been destroyed once the statistical reports were compiled, but there was that handwritten ledger that WAS the index. The punchcards existed to make the statistical reports; they were intended to be read by the computer, not by people. They wouldn’t have been used as an index.
If it’s not the case that his birth records are sealed on account of an adoption, then I think the most likely explanation for what’s being hidden is that the “original vital records” consist of a registration (not yet authenticated) of a birth, based upon an affidavit.
On the other hand, if it was an adoption, then what was created and certified and given to his personal lawyer may have been a copy of his original birth certificate, which is WHY he needed a waiver.
There’s no reason for a waiver unless the records were sealed. We’ve seen other long-form birth certificate copies given recently to Hawaiian-born people, who needed no waiver.
Only a sealed record would require a waiver. They gave his lawyer the copies, but that’s not what was presented to the citizens on the White House website. That was the forgery. But the audit trail of letters between his lawyer and the HDOH gave FALSE “credibility” to the thing posted on the Internet.
I didn’t know about Tsukiyama. Very interesting indeed.
Nope. Wasn’t me. First of all, I would never have called her ‘Ann’ or ‘Anne’ because her name was Stanley Ann Dunham, and that’s how she introduced herself, according to the cabal of Susan Blake and Maxine Box...who maintain they were ‘classmates’ at Mercer Island high school.
And yes, it’s possible Stanley Ann Dunham may have visited Susan Blake after sending her a postcard (from a ship or not) and that she borrowed a car from a friend of her mother’s...but that ‘friend of her mother’s’ was more likely to have been the mother of Marylin Close who still lives on Mercer Island, and Marylin does have a yearbook according to her daughter...but no one has interviewed her.
Marylin you see, attended the University of Washington from 1961 after she graduated from Mercer Island...and what might she say?
That she never saw Stanley Ann Dunham again? And that would make THREE ‘classmates’ who knew her well, were supposedly in the Class of 1960 with her...and never saw her again?
Maybe it was Stanley Ann Dunham who visited Susan Blake, but did she really have a baby with her? And why didn’t she tell Susan she was enrolled at the U of WA?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=advfrQEeIBY
The original video has been cut down to a few seconds. Why?
http://www.good-stock.com/blog/?cat=6&paged=2
Marylin and Stanley Ann Dunham, according to Marylin’s daughter.
mark.
The waiver issue is because Fuddy claims they will not print out ANY copies of original BC’s. That’s why they won’t even allow Duncan Sunahara to SEE his deceased sister’s hospital-generated BC.
Fuddy decided around the same time as Fukino gave an interview claiming that Obama’s BC is “properly numbered” that she would have to hide all the original BC’s because they didn’t want to have to forge all the ones whose BC#’s they (or somebody else covering for Obama) have manipulated - such as the Waidelich, Ah Nee, and Sunahara BC’s.
That’s what we can conclude from their unwillingness to allow Duncan to even SEE his sister’s original BC. It’s not about certified copies, HRS 338-18, or anything else. They are literally hiding all the original records because they know if those ever come out they are totally busted. There’s no way they can do a good paper and/or microfilm forgery for all the records they’ve messed with.
I think you're reading this backwards. The "he" is Omar, who lived with his brother (Barack Sr.) when he (Omar) arrived in Cambridge. The previous sentence in context talks about Omar being three years older than the Sophomore boys in the prep school. So it's saying Omar initially lived with Barack Sr. when Omar arrived in Cambridge. Omar arrived in 1963 and Barack Sr. had already been there since September 1962.
I think you're reading this backwards. The "he" is Omar, who lived with his brother (Barack Sr.) when he (Omar) arrived in Cambridge. The previous sentence in context talks about Omar being three years older than the Sophomore boys in the prep school. So it's saying Omar initially lived with Barack Sr. when Omar arrived in Cambridge. Omar arrived in 1963 and Barack Sr. had already been there since September 1962.
This reminds me of something that I've been trying to figure out. Did SAD skip a grade?? If I did the math right, she should have graduated from high school with the class of 1961, not 1960. Was trying to figure out how she would have moved up a class, especially after moving from Kansas to Washington. Kids who move during the school years seem more likely to be held back than to be moved ahead.
“...The only African student at the school, Obama stood out in a number of other respects. Not only was he three years older than most of the boys in the sophomore class, his arch colonial accent immediately marked him as different. That he initially lived with his brother in a rented apartment in Cambridge, a place often churning with visiting Kenyan students, added to his exoticism...
BUT I still would ask to see more to convince me he didn't arrive in the US until 1963. He was class of 1966 and to complete the usual 4 years of high school, he would have commenced in 1962.
The daughter of SAD’s schoolfriend has her in an image with her mother and has captioned the image as Class of 1960:
http://www.good-stock.com/blog/?cat=6&paged=2
And Maxine Box, who calls herself a classmate supplied this to Getty Images:
And that’s about all we know...
My impression from the story was that he started as a sophomore, rather than as a freshman, so he didn't need to do four years of high school. At 19, maybe they felt he was alreay beyond the freshman level, but didn't test high enough to be in another class??
And my impression is that it’s very very important to assume he arrived in the US in 1963, not in 1962, because where would the kenyan have found the money to pay for his brother’s trip...how did he find $300? Did he suddenly come into money? In 1962...if he had a spare three hundred dollars, where did that come from?
And if Mboya and the AASF was involved, why didn’t they pay the travel expenses for Omar? A private high school education for the young man...but no money for the journey? Doesn’t make sense.
There have been so many lies, I assume it’s safer to assume this is another one.
SomeONE entered the US in 1961. Write it off as a mistake, but babies don’t travel on their own, as another freeper has already pointed out.
I’m NOT saying it was Omar, but I have seen nothing that shows WHEN he arrived.
Have you?
correction: I should have written someONE entered the US from Kenya between July 31, 1961 and June 30, 1962...
obumpa
The bump is good...good is the bump!
I’ve wondered long and hard why the SS and other governmental agency employees don’t do their damn job. Lack of Honor and Respect for our Country for sure.
Excellent analysis! All the dots sure connect now. And it all points to the fact that obozo was born in Kenya (coc, hawaii colb, newspaper announcement....)
The biggest problem is -
1. the obots, lamestream, leftists....don’t care where the h*** obozo was born or if he is constitutionally eligible
2. for us to force them to admit he should be thrown out of the oval office, we have to produce his authentic Kenyan bc, AND, win the argument that his mother cannot confer US citizenship to him - because they insist that birth to a US parent, disregarding birth place, = nbc !!
Can we ever find his authentic Kenyan bc? Perhaps one day when we old folks are long gone.....
So there is no legal recourse!
We can only work to -
VOTE him out in nov 2012!
VOTE HIM OUT, EVEN IF THERE IS A FINACIAL CRISIS OR MATIAL LAW IN EFFECT. HOW? WHILE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY!
Red steel, thanks for posting this.
DustyMoment, does this look interesting?
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