Birthermania!

American Thinker ^ | March 23, 2012 | Monte Kuligowski

[Enough is ENOUGH]

It’s time for the Etch-A-Sketch president to come clean about his secret past. His early association with the Marxist Tommy and Bill Ayers family and their assistance with his education and grooming to be president should be interesting. I can’t wait to hear who he blames for his forged selective service card.

[PA Engineer]

Excellent summary. BTTT.

[rxsid]

"I wish people wouldn't use Sun Yat Sen as an example of Hawaiian's registering foreigners as having been born there, because this happened so long ago before Hawaii even became a state. Something more recent would serve as a far better example, and Arpaio's Cold Case Posse asserted that they had such proof.

Apart from that, rxsid recently posted an article regarding a man who was born in Brisbane Australia, but who claims to have a Hawaiian birth certificate.

Such a document would do much to open people's eyes to the notion that Hawaii's documents cannot be trusted at face value. "

I believe the point that people are trying to make when posting the Sun Yat Sen Hawaiian COLB is that the Hawaiian birth certificate fraud has been going on for a very long time. It shows just how ridiculous their documentation system is...and has been. Even a famous Chinese revolutionary, who clearly was not born in HI, can obtain one of their COLBS.

As for the Australian who later obtained his very own HI COLB (according to him):

It was Penbrook Johannson of the "Daily Pen", who posted the comment on one of his other blogs.

"MAN IN THE MIRROR

Not surprisingly, Barack Obama and I share biographical similarities. We were fostered in paradise, along with a younger sibling, by our white grandparents whose origins once resided in Midwest America before moving west with hope of a better life for our family. Our American grandfathers served the United States as members of the military and we both had a close relationship with a maternal grandmother who passed away in 2008. We both claim a Christian faith, and we are both educated in professional fields attending college where we had occasion to write for the college newspaper.

We were both abandoned by our biological fathers who, at the time of our birth, both resided for some time in Hawaii. Then we were both paternally adopted. We were both born to educated, though wayward mothers during their less than discretionary teen years of the 1960’s. Both of our mothers moved to the Pacific Northwest soon after our birth and, later, became ill with incurable sickness as we entered into the endeavors of our professional lives. I, too, was issued a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth after applying for the document based on Hawaiian law 338-17 which allowed me to gain natural-born American natal status despite my birth in Brisbane, Australia. I am natural-born citizen of the United States because the laws of the state of Hawaii says I am, despite the fact that my natal origins are nowhere near American soil. I could actually run for President, despite being born abroad, under the same circumstances Barack Obama was."

From the first comment in the thread: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2858622/posts

Note: I disagree with his assessment that he thinks he is therefore a natural born Citizen of the U.S. The point here, being, that he alleges to have been born in Brisbane Australia...but sometime later in life, obtained a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth.

[Yaelle]

The truth will out. The truth always does. It would be nice if it were in our lifetime or even before the fall.

Obama must not have been eligible, and nothing to do with his father. The best Occam’s Razor story is that when 17-year-old Stanley Ann, having recently graduated from high school in Seattle, got knocked up within weeks of beginning college in Hawaii, in 1961 by a black man, she was sent over the border where all Seattle girls went in trouble, to an unwed mother’s home in Vancouver. The original intent was probably to give the baby up for adoption. She decided she would keep the baby, which jibes with the eyewitness friends seeing her in sept 1961 in Seattle, where she was enrolled in college, with a little newborn Barack whom she didn’t yet know how to care for.

In 1961 an American woman had to have been in the united states a certain number of years post age 15 in order to confer citizenship upon her foreign born baby. No doubt this was a surprise to Stanley Ann after the fact. Still, baby Barack didn’t have need for documentation until his trip to Indonesia at around age 4 or 5. He may have been included on Stanley Ann’s passport, but it is missing from record. New daddy soetoro may have come up with something for Barack. His first real citizenship may have been either Canadian or Indonesian.

The fact of so many documentary improprieties naturally means he didn’t have access to legitimate documents.

Americans need to push for answers rather than mock any questioners. After all, don’t liberals believe in “Questioning Authority?”

[Yaelle]

Wow. I hadn’t read that before. Wow. Hawaii is quite corrupt.

[STARWISE]

Sound, logical and sensible. Thank God there are still those who bravely insert clarity to counter every vile cloud of smoke and distortion spewed by the evildoers.

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“If Obama really had an authentic birth certificate all along, why did he allow Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin to suffer the pain of imprisonment in Ft. Leavenworth for six months? What kind of human being would allow Lakin to be unnecessarily imprisoned? Only to suddenly “release” the alleged document that Lakin had requested — at the end of Lakin’s prison term.

The profound and cold-hearted treatment of Officer Lakin alone should disqualify Obama from re-election. The fear should be not in the people, but rather in Obama himself.”

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/birthermania.html?asid=ccb4799a#ixzz1pxYdZ6Ni

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We all know it .. people aren’t stupid .. and we’re witnessing it every single day:

only a cold blooded, arrogant, power hungry demon could
intentionally bring such chaos and suffering to so many
with such indifference.

If it walks like a duck ..

First came the creation of the fraud, then came the lies, smoke and mirrors and tap dancing to back up the unchecked fraud, then came the signs of the real mission of tyranny for the fraud, and then came the natural citizen rejection and rebellion to the blatant, full out, socialist, tyrannical decimation of our nation’s very foundation.

Pray there are unselfish, courageous, loyal, savvy Americans who will bring the battle to this cunning enemy and persevere for the successful survival of America and the blessings of freedom for our heirs.

Can’t overlook how sickening it is that a FReeper, cynwoody, supposedly a conservative, sinks so low in his/her continued, deliberate diversions and distortions to muddy the Constitutional waters as to attempt to impugn the legitimacy of a heroic military general and presidential leader, President Eisenhower, solely to inject distraction and doubt for the reader. How dishonest and dishonorable ... how dare you.

[WildHighlander57]

John,

If they were busy, would anyone have noticed a doctored stamp?

Would there be ANY other oddball stamps like o’s had?

If there aren’t any, then that points to deliberate tampering.

That’s not the only problem with the document though.

[butterdezillion]

For the rank and file liberals, the only diet they get is what the media feeds them. So they probably don’t know about the anomalies.

The liberals we see on the threads, at Fogbow, etc are not the rank and file liberals. I believe they are either paid agents provocateur or else the really brainwashed, demoralized ones (or more probably, both). The ones that Yuri Bezmenov says would not believe a concentration camp existed even if they saw it with their own eyes; they will only know the truth when it kicks them in their own backside. They are “useful idiots” who will be shot execution-style as soon as the revolution hits.

So the biggest thing is the media. And as somebody pointed out, the questions that the media people asked after Arpaio’s presser shows that they got it. I think it was Advertiser Guy (though I can’t find him in a user search to get the exact handle right and ping him) who was at the presser and said the oxygen went out of the room as everybody there realized what all this evidence meant.

But you didn’t hear that in any of the media reports. Why? Because they’ve been threatened. That’s got to rankle against their own conscience. Just like even a slut who sleeps with every guy (that’s not in a dress. lol) is still enraged if raped simply because it is an act against her will, media people who will prostitute themselves to the machine still must have an inward twinge when they realize they’re being raped. Some of these people would buckle if they didn’t have a gun to their head.

And if enough of them are willing to buckle, the gun will become much less effective. The dam will open up. (Sorry to mix metaphors. lol) All the Soros machine has ever had against the rank-and-file peons is the ability to call us crazy. Once the little boy says “The Emperor is naked!” the power of the scam is gone, because there is strength in numbers.

Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo are the little boy saying publicly what we’ve all known for a long time. They are confident enough in their own credibility and integrity that they don’t care if the fraudsters say they just don’t see the magic clothes because they are knaves. We know these guys are not knaves or idiots, and with Arpaio coming out it’s emboldened Lord Monckton to come out on this too. The more we get who are willing to publicly say what is obvious to those who are informed, the more likely that the whole thing will break open.

The revelation that the media has been threatened is really, really important - because if we know the media people are under duress we know not to believe anything they say, and the power of the duress is weakened. When the Al Qaeda-captured hostage says, “My captors are taking good care of me and I fully support their cause” we all know it’s BS that is only being said because there’s a gun pointed at him.

George Soros is literally allies with the Islamists to destroy America. He has said he was afraid America would win the war on terror because then the two great evils of America and capitalism would be strong. And the producer of “We Will Not Be Silenced” has now said publicly that democratic leaders told her that Soros told Hillary and Obama that he wanted to destroy the US and asked if they were on board. Hillary said no but Obama said yes.

This is the man who has threatened the media into ignoring and/or ridiculing this issue and the people who believe the issue matters. If people are aware of that they will view everything the media says with a new understanding - being able to see the gun pointed at them as they speak.

[God-fear-republican]

US President, loyal to the Republic but elected unconstitutionally, he himself cannot uphold the very Constitution which he himself violated, furthermore, he can be subjected to blackmail or influence by foreign power. We cannot hold one candidate to higher standard than the rest anywhere even at FR. At FR of all places, we advocate justice and righteousness. Otherwise, we are no different than democrats.

[butterdezillion]

It’s because the HDOH Director has said the only certified birth certificates she will print out are the easily-manipulable computer-generated ones.

And she is actually refusing to obey UIPA by allowing the actual paper record to be either viewed in person or copied by those authorized by HRS 338-18 to see those actual paper records.

Anybody who doesn’t see the corruption in HI needs to explain why a DOH would refuse to let a man see his deceased sister’s birth certificate, when the law clearly says the DOH MUST allow it for people who share an ancestor (and siblings are the closest people who share an ancestor).

[DiogenesLamp]

Note: I disagree with his assessment that he thinks he is therefore a natural born Citizen of the U.S. The point here, being, that he alleges to have been born in Brisbane Australia...but sometime later in life, obtained a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth.

If he would be willing to SHOW both his Brisbane birth certificate AND his Hawaiian birth certificate, and attest that he is a foreign born person who posesses a Hawaiian birth certificate, it would help blow the lid off of people's lack of understanding regarding Hawaii.

I thought I had read something regarding you having been in contact with him. If this is the case, do you suppose you could ask him if he might be willing to provide copies of his documents? They would be incalculably useful.

[rxsid]

Yeah, it's ridiculous how corrput that system was and appears to be, still.

Sun Yat-sen (12 November 1866 – 12 March 1925)[1] was a Chinese revolutionary and president. As the foremost pioneer of Nationalist China, Sun is referred to as the "Father of the Nation" in the Republic of China (ROC), and the "forerunner of democratic revolution" in the People's Republic of China. Sun played an instrumental role in the overthrow of the Qing dynasty during the Xinhai Revolution. Sun was the first provisional president when the Republic of China was founded in 1912 and later co-founded the Kuomintang (KMT), serving as its first leader.[2] Sun was a uniting figure in post-Imperial China, and remains unique among 20th century Chinese politicians for being widely revered amongst the people from both sides of the Taiwan Strait.

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Sun Yat-sen was born on 12 November 1866 to a Cantonese Hakka family[7] in the village of Cuiheng, Xiangshan (later Zhongshan county), Guangzhou prefecture, Guangdong province in Qing China.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat-sen

[DrDude]

Great point

[cynwoody]

The “birfer” slur has always sounded RACIST to me. Is Cynwoody mocking African Americans?

Etymology is not your field, Smokey. Sorry, there is no BEV / Ebonic connection, LOL.

Birtherism was likely invented by Hillary Clinton in the 2008 campaign, as the magic nuke to take out her primary opponent. But she was smart enough to drop it when her minions were unable to substantiate it.

One of the Hildebeest's supporters was nutcase Phil Berg, and he was not so smart. He had already gained a measure of fame as a 9/11 truther, or, less politely, troofer (with spittle). Thus, when he began chasing up the BC blind alley, his opponents morphed truther into birther and troofer into birfer. And it stuck.

So, you see, birtherism was originally a leftist cause.

[rolling_stone]

I haven’t tried confirming this email I recently received (snopes is worthless) that soros is buying up gun manufacturers..

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Guess Who’s Buying Gun Companies? I checked this out and it’s true. Marlin Firearms is already closing its doors! They are doing it to us America!

Even if you do not own a gun you need to know this. This needs to be spread to all gun owners and sportsman. We cannot rely on the media to inform us of these types of matters.

SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT IS HAPPENING

Who is buying companies, manufacturing guns?????
For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers. Some of the companies are Bushmaster, Marlin, Remington, DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R. Some people worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the firearms companies in the United States. If you control the manufacturers you can decide to stop selling to civilians. What a perfect way to control guns.

Now if you do some digging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by a company called Cerberus Capital Management.

Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS!!!!!!!!! One of the most evil men on this planet who wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns.

Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come out. Why have we not heard about this in the “mainstream” media? I would think this would be BIG news. (Soros also owns Progressive Insurance)

If you don’t know who George Soros is, you need to do some Research. He backed Obama with millions of dollars and Obama is a puppet on a string controlled by Soros.

Send this to every gun owner in America .........This is just the beginning of what is to come.

[MileHi]

Not so

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2011/10/internet-rumors-about-cerberus,-freedom.aspx?s=&st=&ps=

[cynwoody]

1. To think that a postal employee would stamp a legal document with the "19" missing and not correct the mistake immediately by re-stamping the Selective Service form is an insult to postal workers everywhere.

Your post is an insult to forgers everywhere.

The Sheriff's theory is that a forger modified a modern date stamp by cutting off the 20 in 2008, flipping over the 08 to make 80, and reinserting the 80 into the stamp. Supposedly, the culprit lacked a 19, so decided to make do without it.

However, slight problem: The stamp reads USPO along the bottom (hard to read, lousy scan, but you can see it clearly in other stamps from the time). USPO stood for United States Post Office. That was its official name up until 1970, when Congress "privatized" it and renamed it the United States Postal Service (USPS). New stamps all said USPS on the bottom. But they kept using the old ones until they wore out.

Now put yourself in the forger's shoes. He needs a stamp. Either USPO or USPS will do. However, the ones lying around all say USPS and have those pesky 2000's year plugs. Now, he might have got lucky and found an old USPO stamp. But that stamp would obviously have a 19xx year plug, wouldn't it? At worst, he might have had to cut the year off of, say, a 1983 stamp and replace it with a flipped 08 from a current stamp. But, in that case, the 19 would show as it should.

4. Also, show me another Selective Service form where the date of the stamp is EARLIER than the date of the person's signature.

5. Again, if you can't do it, then it means that Obama's Selective Service form is the only one in the universe where the postal date stamp is dated EARLIER than the DATE of the the person's SIGNATURE.

Now you are really grasping at straws. People make date mistakes all the time.

[rolling_stone]

thanks i had my doubts...

[rolling_stone]

But that stamp would obviously have a 19xx year plug, wouldn’t it?

Wrong, postal service collects all year inserts on 12/31 of year and hands out new ones with the new year on them.
Forger could get the stamper but not the correct inserts..he could have carved one but didn’t, as imperfections would show up, just like the off centering.

Forgers always make mistakes...Show me two other RDS with only 2 digits in the year. Sonoran news got 17 and only one with 2 year digit was Obamas. That statistically is probable cause of a forgery.

Obot fail

[hoosiermama]

Waivers are needed to see BC that are sealed due to adoptions. That is the only explanation that would explain why BO has problems getting his. We know of one adoption by Lolo Sutoroe or however it’s spelled this week. If that adoption was nullified when he was ten, it might explain the family business that SR showed up for in HI. OTOH if his mother did not sign away her custody of the child I question why SR had to show up at all.