Posted on 03/14/2012 1:01:28 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP
GOP being Punk’d?
We know that Democrats are crossing over in open primaries, such as Mississippi and Alabama, in order to vote for Rick Santorum, a big union candidate, their votes intended to throw the Republican National Convention into a contested balloting process.
This tactic was written up at the Daily Kos. Big union money has even invested for the Santorum campaign.
Pardon me for not having all the pertinent facts and I confess I don’t even have time to search for them all, today, to say nothing of presenting and formatting them, here. Can you help? Place further information into comments?
Santorum in Jackson, Mississippi, photo: Rogelio V. Solis, AP If memory serves me correctly, CNN’s John King last evening pointed out there according to their exit polling, about six to eight percent of Alabama voters called themselves Democrats. However, I did not find breakdown by party at the exit poll pages in cnn.com. That seems odd in itself, eh?
And if that many Democrats were willing to tell exit pollsters what they did, how many more just walked by them, refusing to be polled? If you were a prankster-voting in such a case, would you want to be examined by a pollster? Maybe some would. Maybe more would not.
CNN’s exit polls (for Mississippi and for Alabama) and the actual vote counts may be found at their site (and perhaps others have published exit polls, please tell me if you find any). Santorum’s final edge over Gingrich was approximately two percent in Mississippi and six percent in Alabama. Theoretically, both of these tallies could be within the margin of pranking.
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“There is a Soros based movement (Daily Kos related) that are out to disrupt our primary, to ensure that Santorum gets the nomination.”
Even if Santorum does not get the nomination, this startegy is keeping Newt from getting the nomination. And Newt is the one they are desperate to stop.
There can be no true Freedom or National Security without Energy Independence. This is about saving our Freedom and our Economy, creating Jobs and paying off our National Debt.
You should check out the 30 minute Energy Plan video at Newt.org.
What evidence is that? The fact that your guy got less votes?
No comment, come back when you get a clue.
“....neighbors who have Santorum yard signs are also Christian & Homeschoolers. Santorum won our state on issues.”
Piety isn’t an issue.
When liberal media and the unions make a call for Dems to go out and vote in the GOP Primary for Santorum, it is what it is.
When the Dems state what they are going to do, and then do it, you don’t have to “buy it”. At that point, your choices are reality or denial.
Yep, and even how they debate and "cheer" for their guy and the things they say. Romper room.
Santorum is so divisive, that they see him as the easiest to beat. And believe me, after Santorum lets his arrogant manner take over once he thinks he can't be beat, he will open his canyon sized mouth and stick both feet into it.
Which is exactly how the Democrats see him and why he will be so easy for them to beat.
“Romper Room”.
Love it! :)
I am glad you pointed that out. It’s mainly among conservatives that Romney is considered the weakest candidate. Some liberals agree, but there is no consensus among liberals and many think Romney with his money and organization and good V Obama poll numbers now will be the hardest to beat. They are split on this. And some think Romney winning wouldn’t be so bad for liberalism too. No consensus at all.
But without a doubt, there’s a huge number of libs who are convinced Santorum would be by far the easiest. In fact, they hadn’t even thought that kind of luck was possible til recently.
He likely can't which means brokered convention. I have a news flash for you. If a northeast friend of Romney/Bush/Rockefeller Republican wins the GOP will loose the general election and I'll throw in Jeb in the above mixture also. Conservatives have had enough.
Brokered Convention will have to produce a candidate all sides can support. Meaning a draft of someone like Demint etc. But Newt could not have won the delegates as he only won two states including the one he had served but was not born and partially raisd in.
Then, finally how can you prove that Santorum can win against Obama?
By pounding him on issues. He has to show this nation what Obama and the DEMs have caused.
Forget your dislike for Newt, he is no longer in the picture as far as the formal primary vote is concerned. There no way he can win, outside of a brokered convention.
Newt is highly intelligent but he has yet to gain control of his impulsiveness which is dangerous. He is very smart indeed but lacking somewhat in self discipline in many aspects including political ideas he has supported. If Newt had served as governor of Georgia or Virginia or as senator or congressman from either state he would have done himself and the party a huge favor. Like it or not Newt cut and ran at a very critical time in our nation. Worse was the fact our own congress was going after POTUS over many issues including an affair. What was Newt also doing? Manning up and fighting would have done him far less damage politically.
Part of his departure from the house was due to pressures from a coup of sorts Paxton and a few others were trying to pull off. The other part likely due too his own behavior which in the position he was in was indeed the public business to judge that was disclosed to the public after his resignation.
I'll go one further Palin would not get my vote right now unless she ran at least for congress and completed a term at this point. I would respect her a lot more had she at least announced earlier {before Labor Day say in early August} she was not seeking office so maybe we wouldn't have been stuck with Romney, Santorum, and Newt, as the top three GOP choices. I don't think she ever had any intentions to run in 2012. If you don't then say it and let someone else gain the support. If a person can't stand up too the pressures of a lower office and resign how can they stand up too pressures of a higher one?
You can be sure that in every state with an open primary, the Dems will be taking advantage of the “gift” of Santorum.
Rick has already written several Dem ads on the campaign trail.
As pointed out by Psycho-Freep, Rick is just getting warmed up.
But trust is though. Who do voters trust most? Romneycare, Newt who has major baggage, or Santorum not right on an issue a few times but is not Newt nor Romney. None of the three are real POTUS material. Of the three it is honestly a matter of who do you trust the most? By that I mean looking at public and private life. Voters simply see Santorum as being the most connected to the average persons plight. It isn't a matter of him being Reagan 2 as Reagan 2 was no where to be found this election even in the earliest days of this election cycle.
Maybe not, but he's one of the two remaining alternatives to Romney and Obama we have left.
You should be flogged for such a ridiculous statement.
I should be flogged for pointing out that Reagan was the dream candidate for Carter to run against in 1980? What other FACTS do you want censored?
It would not suprise me if Trump or Romney pull something like this. Keep our ears open.
Just this morning, FOX was already downplaying Mitts loss. They kept showing over and over that Romney would beat Obama if election were held today. Very irritating.
“Especially one as weak as Santorum. It is what it is.......We have no other choice.”
We did our best to warn what will come if Santorum gets the Nomination. Having Newt as VP with a guiding hand is the only shot this Country has.
Open primaries and voters believing everything they see are hear without researching has costed us another presidental election I fear.
I fear much darker days will soon be upon us.
Remember, they need some excuse. They no longer have any of the other arguments. Santorum leads Gingrich in total votes, hard delegates, soft delegates, number of states won, head-to-head results, and total placement in races.
They can’t complain Santorum has no longer been vetted, since he’s been being “vetted” according to them since a week before Michigan.
They can’t complain Santorum is taking votes from Gingrich, because there has never been a state where Gingrich came in 2nd, but could have won with Santorum’s votes; On the other hand, there are multiple states where Gingrich was crushed, but where a portion of his vote would have given Santorum a state.
They can’t complain that Santorum isn’t “playing the game” to stop Romney, because in the Alaska Caucus, which is the ONE PLACE where you could actually PLAY a game and give a competitor the win, it would have been Gingrich giving Santorum 400 votes, and Gingrich didn’t do it (in 2008, Huckabee DID give McCain caucus votes to beat Romney).
They can’t complain that Santorum didn’t drop out, because the new Gingrich “strategy” is that everybody has to be in the race.
They can’t push the “Gingrich will sweeep the south”, because Santorum has more southern states than Gingrich.
So what do they have? “Santorum isn’t REALLY winning because he’s attracting democrats who are trying to stop Romney.”
But this is the first chance they have to safely make that argument, because no matter what their views REALLY are, they could never, on Free Republic, have complained about democrats giving Santorum a victory over Romney. But here, Gingrich was slightly ahead of Romney in 2nd, so they make the argument.
Frankly, I don’t care if Santorum is beating Romney by getting Obama to vote for him. That was SUPPOSED to be the plan. Heck, some Gingrich folks are actually in THIS thread complaining that it is Santorum supporters who fail to understand the plan, at the same time they are upset that Santorum is actually doing much getter at implementing the plan.
And Santorum supporters are the ones that made the plan possible, while Gingrich supporters spent weeks bad-mouthing Santorum and his supporters for not quitting the race after South Carolina — which combined with Gingrich’s limited-state strategy would have handed Romney the inevitable nomination by now.
As far as the Media loving last night’s results, it makes good television. If this were a selection with Romney winning each race and collecting delegates, it would just be running the table. Unlike last cycle, where there were contests on both sides, this year only the Republicans are having a fight for the nomination. And fights make for good television.
Yesterday you also saw just how nasty it will get. The media pointed out that Gingrich’s stragety for the south came apart. So, he came out swinging pointing out that Romney placed third in 2 states.
Newt’s plan is now to deny Mitt the delegates to win the nomination, since he has no where else to go except out of the race. Can he do that? Unclear. Maybe the best approach is to keep pressing Mitt from 2 sides, keeping the results a plurality instead of a majority win. There could be enough unrest where Newt and Rick can win enough to prevent Mitt from reaching the magic number.
And, the political stunts always come back to haunt you. Operation Chaos was trumpeted the last election. Now the Republicans may be having to deal with it.
Lastly, I will state that the organizational skills of most of the candidates leave a lot to be desired. Virginia is an embarassment with only Mitt and Ron Paul on the ballot. And Romney’s supposed blowing off a candidate forum since it was not being broadcast is just another example of Mitt projecting how he is better than the rest of us. They are interviewing with US for the most important job in the world. Show us you are ready. Right now, none of them are, IMHO, showing us that they are ready.
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