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HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

As many of your know, the "B.C." issue hasn't been my main focus. The "natural born Citizen" term and it's origins, has been.

However, the information contained in this article (and the previous two parts) is pretty amazing...indicating the "how" and the "why" FOREIGN births were registered in Hawaii as born in that state.

See Hawaii's law from 1957 (in force in 1961) that would have allowed a foreign born baby to be registered by the Grandmother (for example)...who would have listed her young daughter's residance as her's at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, with sections 57-8 and 57-9 in Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I" beginning on page 22 and continuing on page 23 of 29.

Also, of interest, is one of the author's of this article:

Penbrook Johannson

"My blogs

The Mombosan Son
THE DAILY PEN
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About me

Industry: Law
Occupation: Constitutional Defense Lawyer
Location: Mombosa,Kenya"

And, this tid bit:

"MAN IN THE MIRROR

Not surprisingly, Barack Obama and I share biographical similarities. We were fostered in paradise, along with a younger sibling, by our white grandparents whose origins once resided in Midwest America before moving west with hope of a better life for our family. Our American grandfathers served the United States as members of the military and we both had a close relationship with a maternal grandmother who passed away in 2008. We both claim a Christian faith, and we are both educated in professional fields attending college where we had occasion to write for the college newspaper.

We were both abandoned by our biological fathers who, at the time of our birth, both resided for some time in Hawaii. Then we were both paternally adopted. We were both born to educated, though wayward mothers during their less than discretionary teen years of the 1960’s. Both of our mothers moved to the Pacific Northwest soon after our birth and, later, became ill with incurable sickness as we entered into the endeavors of our professional lives. I, too, was issued a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth after applying for the document based on Hawaiian law 338-17 which allowed me to gain natural-born American natal status despite my birth in Brisbane, Australia. I am natural-born citizen of the United States because the laws of the state of Hawaii says I am, despite the fact that my natal origins are nowhere near American soil. I could actually run for President, despite being born abroad, under the same circumstances Barack Obama was."


1 posted on 03/13/2012 3:40:08 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: LucyT; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ...
Ping!

"VITAL RECORDS INDICATE OBAMA NOT BORN IN HAWAII HOSPITAL (PART 3)"

Also note in the comment section, the "MAN IN THE MIRROR" piece.

Interesting background!

2 posted on 03/13/2012 3:42:08 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

You should send this to Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse.


4 posted on 03/13/2012 3:45:47 PM PDT by kabar
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To: rxsid

At this point, the forgeries are precise to the molecular level.

9/11?

A Kenyan Muslim is now President.


10 posted on 03/13/2012 3:54:29 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: rxsid

B U M P


13 posted on 03/13/2012 3:57:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: rxsid

Why does the format of this article remind me of a supermarket tabloid?


14 posted on 03/13/2012 3:58:46 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: rxsid

It seems to me that the guidelines they reference are only about how the vital statistics are reported to the Feds. I don’t see anything that says the states have to record the place of birth that way on the certificates they issue. What says they didn’t record the actual place of birth on the certificate, and just use the mother’s residence when they transmitted the (presumably summarized) statistics to the Feds?

I know, for example, that my birth certificate lists my actual place of birth, which was not ever my mother’s place of residence.


19 posted on 03/13/2012 4:15:18 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: rxsid
Having full knowledge of the policy which directed the registrar in 1961 to allocate Obama’s birthplace to his mother’s place of residence, having seen Obama’s “original vital records”, knowing Obama’s actual place of birth was outside of the United States, Fukino intentionally misled the American people in a formal press release by stating that Obama was a Natural-born citizen when she knew he was not.

If you look back at Fukino's actual statement she said he was a "natural born American Citizen" NOT a "natural born U.S. Citizen". (If he were born in Canada he would be an American citizen, but not a U.S. Citizen) Legal weasel words.

39 posted on 03/13/2012 6:05:38 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: rxsid
I am natural-born citizen of the United States because the laws of the state of Hawaii says I am, despite the fact that my natal origins are nowhere near American soil. I could actually run for President, despite being born abroad, under the same circumstances Barack Obama was."

Even if you were born in the Lincoln bedroom without a US citizen father, you aren't a NBC.

98 posted on 03/14/2012 9:52:28 AM PDT by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: rxsid

“McCain was born in Panama in 1936, while regionally under the jurisdiction of the United States following the construction of the Panama Canal, to two U.S. citizen parents who were living there while his father was serving in the U.S. military.”

This statement is a LIE AND A BUNCH OF CRAP!!!!

Panama Juan WAS BORN IN COLON HOSPITAL, COLON, REPUBLIC OF PANAMA. COLON WAS NEVER, EVER UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE U.S. Having been born in Colon, Republic of Panama Juan is a dual citizen as I am also.

I stopped reading at that point.


108 posted on 03/14/2012 11:16:12 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

bflr


177 posted on 03/14/2012 10:21:16 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: rxsid

A key element of the argument by Johannson and Crosby is what they describe as a “Foreign Birth Transfer Exchange,” a fictional program whereby the US and foreign countries register births of the other’s residents and then exchange the data. As evidence they provide a statistical table from Vital Statistics of the United States - 1945 - Part II.

The table is a fake. It’s been “Photoshopped” to change “Outside the continental United States” to “Outside the United States.” The Report itself explains that the data come from States, territories and possessions of the United States (hence the “continental” reference), not foreign countries.

Read it for yourself (it’s on Page 8).

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsus_1945_2.pdf


178 posted on 03/15/2012 1:15:06 AM PDT by Doc Conspiracy (Fishing for gold coins in a bucket of mud)
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To: rxsid
I wonder if Penbrook Johannson would be willing to produce his Hawaiian birth certificate along with proof he was born in Australia?

Such a document would go a long way in SHUTTING UP those snarky little bastards that keep saying that Hawaii's word is all we need. Indeed, it would infuse new life into the issue by calling into question the legitimacy of Hawaii's records as a form of proof regarding "natural born citizen" status.

As I have said in the past, I doubt Barack can even prove 14th amendment citizenship, let alone "natural citizenship."

180 posted on 03/15/2012 9:13:30 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: rxsid

You write, “His birthplace was recorded by the foreign health agency with jurisdiction over the facility where he emerged from his mother’s womb.” Well, that would probably be either the Children’s Hospital of Vancouver or the YWCA Home for Unwed Mothers in Vancouver. Vancouver was interchangable with Kenya; because they were both British colonies in 1961. If Obama was born in Vancouver, on Dunham’s way back to school, then how in the world does that qualify him to be the president of the US? And if Pelosi, Dean, and the DNC knew he is Canadian and knowingly and willingly steamrolled him into the White House, why haven’t they been tried for treason?


225 posted on 03/27/2012 8:34:24 AM PDT by gethimoutofthehouse
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