Posted on 03/01/2012 1:50:50 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
I just finished Watching Sheriff Arpaio's press conference. The Sheriff's posse has concluded that the document was created on a computer and is therefore a forgery.
I will once again point out that if Obama was adopted, he would get a replacement birth certificate that will be designed to look like an original 1961 birth certificate, but it will in fact have been created by the Department of Health in the State of Hawaii at the Direction of an Hawaiian State Judge.
"The Obama was Adopted" theory addresses the "forgery" issue head on, and precludes it from being a crime. In my opinion, this is the simplest explanation for the fact that Obama's document looks cobbled together, and that Hawaii is tacitly confirming it as legitimate.
I will further add, (for those who have not already been so informed) that *I* was adopted, and *I* have a birth certificate which was created six years after I was born, and is in fact a replacement birth certificate that lists my new last name, new parent's names, etc.
This theory ties up a lot of the loose ends neatly (not all of them) and it doesn't involve believing that the Hawaiian government is involved in a criminal "conspiracy." I urge people to consider this idea before jumping to the conclusion that everyone involved with producing this document has committed a criminal act.
I will suggest that it is perfectly reasonable for Obama's Grandparents to have Adopted him, especially if he had been adopted by His Mother's second husband (Lolo Soetoro) in Indonesia. (Evidence exists to indicate this.) In the process of (His Grandparents) acquiring legal custody of Barry Soetoro, it may very well have required both Barack Sr. and Stanley Ann to sign some documents. This would explain their simultaneous presence.
I will point out once again, that thereafter he lived with his grandparents. It would be foolish to assume that they did not engage in some sort of legal process to be his legal guardians.
An adoption would help to makes sense of (most of) this mess of confusing facts.
You are so off base. If in fact he was adopted his birth certificate would have the adopted parents names on the certificate and not the original parents.
And his original certificate would still be there, that is never changed.
"Always lie. Lie big. Never lie about small things. Make the lies so big and outrageous that any accuser seems to be without merit. Never mix truth with lies, as that only serves to trip you up." - Bill Clinton, from Year of The Rat, 1996
Have you ever seen any photos of her pregnant?
Unless of course you are an Obama plant, then just go away.
He may not be Stanley Ann’s child, but he’s DEFINITELY related to Stanley Ann’s father. He and Barry are the spitting image of each other, Barry just has a tan.
Obama acts like a spoiled rich kid who never had to work a real days work in his life. Not to mention he is a pathological lier and some kind of screwed up indiviual. Probably just your average messed up Marxist crackpot?
Obama acts like a spoiled rich kid who never had to work a real days work in his life. Not to mention he is a pathological lier and some kind of screwed up indiviual. Probably just your average messed up Marxist crackpot?
From age 10 to age 18, Obama was in the legal custody of Catholic Social Services of CT (Explains his CT SSN). His grandmother was appointed as his guardian. After he turned 18, he naturalized as a US citizen.
That's only germane if it would not be apparent to a competent investigator examining your birth certificate that it is an amended birth certificate.
I don’t think any of it matters anyhow. Even if it was absolutely proved a fraud, nobody that is able would do anything about it. It is what it is and he is there until we vote his butt out or his time runs out.
About the only chance of it mattering would be in some future history book, if there is truth to the fraud...perhaps they will tell the tale.
Even if you are right about the BC...
It doesn’t make him look good.
What about the Selective Service Card Forgery and fake SS numbers.
Think it through. The document was created on a computer. They didn't have those in 1971. (not for that stuff anyway.)
Barack got the adoption annulled, sometime within the last several years.
Thank you for that opinion. I'm sure it passes for wisdom amongst the other oysters in the bed.
My mother and bio father were divorced, my mother remarried and her new husband adopted me. I have two birth certificates same mother and my bio father. The second BC has my ‘new’ name and my adopted father who appears as my bio father, both have BCs have the same address where we lived when I was born.
“I will once again point out that if Obama was adopted, he would get a replacement birth certificate that will be designed to look like an original 1961 birth certificate, but it will in fact have been created by the Department of Health”
[both of my BCs were created by the Department of Health of the state I was born. My ‘replacement BC’ looks nothing like my original BC’. I think you should verify your source[s]
When a child is adopted, the original is sealed. It cannot be released without a court order. Neither the State nor the Federal government wants individuals to possess two different birth certificates which can be used for identification purposes.
Obama's legal team may have requested the production of a new birth certificate rather than an unsealing of the original. I think the only person that could answer this question authoritatively is a lawyer or judge who has been involved in a similar process.
As far as i'm concerned, yes.
Have you ever seen any photos of her pregnant?
No, but that doesn't prove anything. I haven't seen pictures of the inside of the Dunham bathroom, but I have no doubt that they had one.
That was easy.
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