Posted on 03/01/2012 1:50:50 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
I just finished Watching Sheriff Arpaio's press conference. The Sheriff's posse has concluded that the document was created on a computer and is therefore a forgery.
I will once again point out that if Obama was adopted, he would get a replacement birth certificate that will be designed to look like an original 1961 birth certificate, but it will in fact have been created by the Department of Health in the State of Hawaii at the Direction of an Hawaiian State Judge.
"The Obama was Adopted" theory addresses the "forgery" issue head on, and precludes it from being a crime. In my opinion, this is the simplest explanation for the fact that Obama's document looks cobbled together, and that Hawaii is tacitly confirming it as legitimate.
I will further add, (for those who have not already been so informed) that *I* was adopted, and *I* have a birth certificate which was created six years after I was born, and is in fact a replacement birth certificate that lists my new last name, new parent's names, etc.
This theory ties up a lot of the loose ends neatly (not all of them) and it doesn't involve believing that the Hawaiian government is involved in a criminal "conspiracy." I urge people to consider this idea before jumping to the conclusion that everyone involved with producing this document has committed a criminal act.
Wasn’t she supposed to be pregnant when she got married? Where is that picture?
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Burned or never existed? Maybe it’s the same place the photos of Stanley and her newborn first born are. Or with the photos of Senior and Stanley with their supposed new baby. Nope, those don’t exist either. What about photos of the Dunhams with their new and first grandchild. Nope, those don’t exit either. What about Stanley Anne with her new baby? Nope those don’t exist either.
Still wondering why there isn’t a single photo of Barry with a girl in high school, college or after college until big MO came along. I have plenty of photos of my parents with other people they dated, my wife has the same of hers. My wife and I both have photos from back in the day before we met. Prom pics, date pics, pics at other events with dates. Barry? Only photos with boys, feminine looking boys.
mojitojoe:”, the only question left was if the fix was done in haste and would be good enough to avoid detection.”
If the LFBC PDF is any indication, then perhaps we have a chance to uncover the fraud.
Although Obama spent a loooooooong time in Hawaii this past December and he had plenty of time to work with the HDOH to get it right. Or at least right enough...
It’s an election year. The usurpers want 4 more years to vacation on our dime. The trolls are out in force. They need to begin now to establish themselves to try to avoid detection when they go into full Obot mode. There are LOTS of trolls on FR right now and many of them are very good at what they do. Thankfully, some of them are getting zotted. I wish FR had a flag posts button. It would help the mods immensely. When someone begins to get lots of posts flagged, then they can take a look.
What about wedding pictures? Surely someone must have taken photos of the wedding.
You don’t find this interesting?
No, because I think Madelyn Dunham was utterly ashamed of the fact that she had a Black Grandchild. Madelyn Dunham was from Kansas, and from my Reading of Frank Marshall Davis' book "livin' the blues" they were pretty prejudice in Kansas during the 1920s, and I can only assume it continued during the time Madelyn Dunham was growing up. Apart from that, the Family lived in Oklahoma and Texas before moving to Washington. I think most of Madelyn Duham's life she was exposed to a culture that was very prejudiced against blacks, and where miscegenation was a Felony Crime. (Not Kansas, but it was in Oklahoma and Texas. See Map at link.)
I think it took her a long time to come to terms with the fact that her Grandson was black. That it caused immediate strife in the Dunham household is evident by the fact that Stanley Ann left and didn't come back until a year after Barry was born. Also, see my previous message with the link that shows Madelyn Dunham's coworkers didn't even know she had a grandson until they found out about it on television. This is NOT the behavior of a proud grandmother.
I think Madelyn Dunham was VERY ashamed of Barry, and so therefore there are no fawning pictures of him until later, and the one of him on the tricycle was probably taken by Stanley Ann.
All those that were commie plants. Black bars were good cover for spies. Easy to spot government agents that way.
I’ll come back to this one later.
I agree.
mojitojoe:”What if someone found actual newspapers from that date, had them authenticated, maintained a chain of command, and little barry’s name was missing?”
I remember some info a long time back (a year or so?) that was mentioned on FR but I don’t know anything of its veracity. I thought someone had investigated the microfiche of these newspaper birth notices and found them to be unique from those prior to August and successive to August. Wish I could remember who made this claim and in what thread it was mentioned. The obvious suspicion was that these microfiche were “manufactured”.
I'd rather look at Helen Thomas nude.
Which brings up to me, the question, why would Stanley Ann go to all the trouble to marry some foreign guy, who was already married, and give ‘Barry’ a FAMILY, a FATHER, and then abandon little Barry to her parents?
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Exactly. It makes no sense. He wrote Dreams to make up his past. I don’t believe a word of it.
You ask some tough questions. I have what I believe are good answers, but only if you are familiar with some ideas that are not necessarily well known to everybody.
Let me talk about something slightly off track for a bit, and perhaps you can see how it relates to Stanly Ann's behavior.
Years ago I knew of a case where a woman let her husband sleep with her daughter from a previous marriage, just so he would stay with her. She was so afraid of losing him, that she would tolerate him having sex with her daughter just as long as he stayed and paid the bills. If you have been around for awhile, you may know of similar such cases, and cases where a woman puts up with cheating and abuse, etc. There are many women (especially those who are self conscious as I believe Stanley Ann was) who are VERY AFRAID of losing their man. I could give you more examples, but I am going to presume you have seen similar examples before, and know what I am talking about.
Stanley Ann found herself alone after having Barack. I'm assuming her pool of guys willing to date her was rather small, prior to 1964, and so Lolo probably seemed like a God-send to her. When she first married him, she may have felt that he wanted her entire package, including her young son, but Barry was not well liked in Indonesia, and apparently the Indonesians were also prejudiced regarding him. By the time 1971 rolled around, she probably thought he would be happier in Hawaii, where the prejudice was far less than it was anywhere else she could think of, and she probably also thought Barry was causing friction between her and her man. I don't think she wanted to abandon him, I suspect she just felt it was in both his best interest and her best interest.
My own mother put us kids up in an adoption home because she simply couldn't afford to take care of us, and our worthless father had abandoned us years previously. Sometimes people do what they feel they must, rather than what they want.
Anyway, this way of looking at it makes sense to me.
I would find that AWESOME! Butterzillion has long argued that the microfiches used to acquire those newspaper reports were manipulated or doctored. I find this difficult to accept because of the amount of trouble involved to do such a thing, but I still keep this notion in the back of my mind. If someone could find actual copies of these newspapers and PROVE that the microfiches were actually doctored, that would in fact make it a very obvious coverup, and I believe that would result in a lot more scrutiny of the issue by a lot more people.
It is my understanding that someone is offering a $10,000.00 reward for an original copy of one of these two newspapers. If someone does in fact come up with one of these, and it does not show the announcement on the appropriate page, then all bets are off as to what is going on here. Such an event would cause me and a lot of other people to rethink this issue.
If I recall correctly, Obama File has most of this info. It's been awhile since I dug deep into this stuff, but that is what I remember.
Well, no more than most. :)
I've got to get back to work. I'll get back here later.
This is total nonsense! Just look at photos of Barry as a child, teenager and adult. Look at pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham. He looks exactly like her, and nothing like his supposed father. Looks more like Malcolm X if you ask me. Check photos side by side... resemblance is astonishing, but of course, only DNA would tell the truth about who BHO really is.
Also, see my previous message with the link that shows Madelyn Dunham’s coworkers didn’t even know she had a grandson until they found out about it on television. This is NOT the behavior of a proud grandmother.
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Maybe they didn’t know because there was no grandson. Maybe it was her husband’s son but not hers. Concrete information is so scare that I find circumstantial evidence is probably more close to the truth, but that’s just my opinion
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I think Madelyn Dunham was VERY ashamed of Barry, and so therefore there are no fawning pictures of him until later, and the one of him on the tricycle was probably taken by Stanley Ann.
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Why would you assume the picture of him on the trike was taken by Stanley Anne. That picture could be of any little black kid and even if it was him, it could have been taken but a friend of Stanley’s, Gramps, or even FMD for all we know.
I trust nothing about them...NOTHING... too many inconsistencies and things that defy logic. I don’t think there is a single thing that could come out that would shock me.
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