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NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP NOT DEFINED BY BIRTH CERTIFICATES
The Daily Pen ^ | 02/26/2012 | Dan Crosby

Posted on 02/29/2012 7:17:11 AM PST by TexasVoter

Today, you can apparently be born under foreign paternity on a remote, multicultural, migratory island hub way out in the Pacific ocean, move to Indonesia with your foreign, non-citizen step-father, attend school under the name and religious identity of that patriarch, then suddenly reappear back on the island four years later under suspicious circumstances without any evidence of repatriation, and none of these circumstances prompts anyone in our government or media to ever so much as question your claim to Natural-born eligibility.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: birther; constitution; naturalborncitizen; obama
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Every public official, every candidate for public office, every registered voter and every media employee should be required to take three minutes and read this. Heck, just make that everyone.
1 posted on 02/29/2012 7:17:16 AM PST by TexasVoter
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To: TexasVoter
It's a blog.

If you think it's so important for everyone to read, why not post the whole thing?

2 posted on 02/29/2012 7:22:43 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: TexasVoter; Tex-Con-Man

When the state of Hawaii is described as “a remote, multicultural, migratory island hub way out in the Pacific ocean”, and the blog writer has no knowledge of the law (see http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/307/325/case.html), then please spare us the blog ping.


3 posted on 02/29/2012 7:25:49 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Tex-Con-Man

There’s only 1 cookie from Blogger and nothing else.

Nobody’s making money off this one.


4 posted on 02/29/2012 7:39:34 AM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: TexasVoter

The Saint Francis School Foundation (St. Francis Assisi School, Djakarta, Indonesia) is an entity incorporated in the State of Connecticut.


5 posted on 02/29/2012 7:58:53 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (What would MacGyver do?)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
If you think it's so important for everyone to read, why not post the whole thing?

Hey, this topic is stupid, and a waste of time. Isn't that your opinion? Funny how certain of you always seem to find the time to bother with it.

You are either obsessed conservative loons, or agents provocateur.

6 posted on 02/29/2012 8:02:31 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: SvenMagnussen

“The Saint Francis School Foundation (St. Francis Assisi School, Djakarta, Indonesia) is an entity incorporated in the State of Connecticut.”

Interesting! Got link?


7 posted on 02/29/2012 8:03:39 AM PST by TexasVoter (No Constitution? No Union!)
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To: TexasVoter
Only sonemone who defends someone whoFORGED not one, not two, but THREE FALSE Birth Certificates, would write such garbage!!!
8 posted on 02/29/2012 8:04:33 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Scratch that. How about another theory. You have family that falls into the category being discussed, (Like Mr. Rogers) and as a result you have an emotional attachment to your position. *THAT* would explain your opinion AND your obsession.

Texas huh? And how might members of your family fit into the objectionable category? Seems as though it shares a border with a foreign country.

Do you HAVE a personal interest in this issue? Would it affect members of your family were it decided as my side suggests?

9 posted on 02/29/2012 8:09:36 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Declarartion on Stanley Ann's Passport renewal: If a person included the original passport has been naturalized as a citizen of a foreign state, then strike their name out.






10 posted on 02/29/2012 8:12:10 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (What would MacGyver do?)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Your distance from the truth increases with each subsequent delusional post...continue....
11 posted on 02/29/2012 8:18:58 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: SvenMagnussen

“...strike thier name out.”

It’s amazing how much we are learning as we persevere. Can you offer a source for the instructions for passport renewal which you suggest directs the applicant to identify a citizenship change in this way?


12 posted on 02/29/2012 8:21:51 AM PST by TexasVoter (No Constitution? No Union!)
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To: Mr Rogers
When the state of Hawaii is described as “a remote, multicultural, migratory island hub way out in the Pacific ocean”, and the blog writer has no knowledge of the law (see http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/307/325/case.html), then please spare us the blog ping.

He may know more about History than do you. From MY reading, Hawaii was only given State status as a Trade to the Democrats for agreeing to allow Republican Alaska into the Union. Were it on it's own merits, it likely wouldn't have been a state at all, but would have instead been "a remote multicultural, migratory island hub way out in the Pacific ocean" classified as a "territory."

13 posted on 02/29/2012 8:24:10 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Do you think that has some connection to the Connecticut SS#?


14 posted on 02/29/2012 8:25:06 AM PST by Josephat (The old claim your evengelizing people who haven't heard the gospel, but go to a Catholic country tr)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Your distance from the truth increases with each subsequent delusional post...continue....

My theory makes more sense than your presence for any other reason. Why does someone who considers the issue ridiculous spend so much time involved with those who would discuss it?

Occam's razor dude. You are either an obsessed loon, or you have a personal interest in a specific *SIDE* of this issue. Mr. Roger's personal interest is known. Your's, if any, is not. How about stating for the record that you have no relatives which would be affected were citizenship to depend on the Parent's nationality?

If you say so, i'll consider the matter settled. While I think you're a kook, (or an interested party) I do not suspect you of being a liar.

15 posted on 02/29/2012 8:33:34 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Mr Rogers
I found the blog accurate in all the things that I have knowledge of. I did not find that the author ever stated that Obama wasn't a citizen. He just isn't an Article II Natural Born Citizen which is correct. The law you linked is about how difficult it is to lose your citizenship and that no one can lose it for you. The author never said this happened. I fail to see your point.
16 posted on 02/29/2012 8:34:00 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Josephat

“Do you think that has some connection to the Connecticut SS#?”

Yes. Obama returned to Hawaii and lived with his grandmother who had been nominated as his guardian. Legal custody of Obama was maintained in Connecticut until the age of majority. Permanent Resident Aliens are eligible for a SSN.


17 posted on 02/29/2012 8:39:14 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (What would MacGyver do?)
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Is Hawaii a state, and was it so in the 1960s?

Yes. Just as much a state as Iowa, Virginia or Utah.

“The law you linked is about how difficult it is to lose your citizenship and that no one can lose it for you. The author never said this happened.”

“then suddenly reappear back on the island four years later under suspicious circumstances without any evidence of repatriation”

Repatriation means to return to the land of your citizenship, so if Obama returned at age 10 without repatriating, it meant he had lost his US citizenship while in Indonesia.

“I found the blog accurate in all the things that I have knowledge of.”

Hmmm...you mean like quoting from the 1797 translation of Vattel as if it was available during the 1787 convention?


18 posted on 02/29/2012 8:42:05 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Hawaii became a state in 1959. Only two years later Obama is born there (supposedly). Hawaii is still in transition from “a remote, multicultural, migratory island hub way out in the Pacific ocean”, to a state, with goofy laws that allow anyone, no matter where they were born, to become a citizen of Hawaii, thus a citizen of the United States. Obama may have obtained his Hawaiian birth certificate (if he even has one) in this manner.


19 posted on 02/29/2012 8:43:05 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Mr. Roger’s personal interest is known.”

Really? What is it?

I’ll give you a hint: I think birthers are delusional...


20 posted on 02/29/2012 8:44:49 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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