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Georgia Democrats propose limitations on vasectomies for men
Cable News Network ^ | February 21st, 2012 | 06:23 PM ET | Jamie Gumbrecht

Posted on 02/23/2012 3:37:48 PM PST by Olog-hai

As members of Georgia’s House of Representatives debate whether to prohibit abortions for women more than 20 weeks pregnant, House Democrats introduced their own reproductive rights plan: No more vasectomies that leave "thousands of children ... deprived of birth."

Rep. Yasmin Neal, a Democrat from the Atlanta suburb of Jonesboro, planned on Wednesday to introduce HB 1116, which would prevent men from vasectomies unless needed to avert serious injury or death.

The bill reads: "It is patently unfair that men avoid the rewards of unwanted fatherhood by presuming that their judgment over such matters is more valid than the judgment of the General Assembly. ... It is the purpose of the General Assembly to assert an invasive state interest in the reproductive habits of men in this state and substitute the will of the government over the will of adult men."

“If we legislate women’s bodies, it’s only fair that we legislate men’s,” said Neal, who said she wanted to write bill that would generate emotion and conversation the way anti-abortion bills do. “There are too many problems in the state. Why are you under the skirts of women? I’m sure there are other places to be." …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: democrats; georgia; vasectomy
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To: Olog-hai

Democrats want more babies for the single welfare mothers who have replaced fathers with Gubmint.

Democrats encourage more abortions on demand to single, taxpaying women for whom a pregnancy is an inconvenience.

Democrats also want a pool of sperm donors for lesbian liberals.

Democrats want men to behave and vote irresponsibly.

Conservatives will have to pay for all of the above.


21 posted on 02/23/2012 4:03:46 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to bring America back from the brink.)
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To: GraceG

Point is, once you do it, you’re sterile. There will be no baby.

Abortion implies there IS a baby.


22 posted on 02/23/2012 4:07:30 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Rep. Yasmin Neal, a Democrat from the Atlanta suburb of Jonesboro, planned on Wednesday to introduce HB 1116, which would prevent men from vasectomies unless needed to avert serious injury or death.”

How about to “protect the man’s health”?


23 posted on 02/23/2012 4:15:11 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: Olog-hai

If this had occurred in 1971, upon the eve of my marriage, and I found myself living in a state in which I could not get a vasectomy, well, the solution was obvious: go to another state and get it done.

Goodness, I didn’t read much of this—and it may be a joke—but that some people are even thinking this is mind-boggling.


24 posted on 02/23/2012 4:19:48 PM PST by OldPossum (ou)
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To: Tuketu
A vas is the equivalent of a fem having her tubes tied. Both an unacceptable means of birth control IMHO.

Now, why is that?

25 posted on 02/23/2012 4:22:32 PM PST by OldPossum (ou)
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To: Olog-hai

This is where I really miss Cain. He was just starting to hit on the fact that black kids are 3 times as likely to be aborted than white kids. Essentially saying that the (white) Dems are perputrating a genocide on black kids. That was the point when the bimbo attacks started.

I realize that some people have mixed feelings on the above (and I won’t go there), but the bottom line was that his line of attack threatened to COMPLETELY sever blacks from Democrats, and destroy that party. Cain was just starting to point out the locations of the Planned Parenthood ‘clinics’.


26 posted on 02/23/2012 4:28:31 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: exDemMom

“There is no equivalence between preventing a human life and destroying one.”

Ah.. but remember that the Democrats are going all-in to try to create the impression that there IS an equivalency. That’s their whole strategy with this bogus contraception issue they have been trying to gin up during the Republican primary. It’s their new strategy to try and reframe the abortion debate, by tying it to contraception, even though there is no logical connection.


27 posted on 02/23/2012 4:29:22 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Olog-hai

!hat difference would it make? Oh, yeah, it would add even more kids to the welfare rolls. Georgia democrats sure are stupid. And so are the people who elect them.


28 posted on 02/23/2012 4:38:47 PM PST by Terry Mross (Difference between a conservative / liberal-obvious. Difference between a rep and a dem? None)
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To: Olog-hai

An appropriate reply to this idea would be for republicans to enter a bill to establish a “legal abortion” for men. If abortion is a right, surely it’s an equal right. Through a legal abortion, a male could lawfully disclaim parenthood. After all, it is a woman’s right to decide when she will become a parent. Surely a man has the same right. Surely it isn’t just that a woman can decide when a man will become a parent.


29 posted on 02/23/2012 4:47:09 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Apples and oranges comparison.

Vasectomy compared to tubes tied is valid.

There is no valid equal comparison given men can’t get pregnant.

The only closest thing would be allowing men an equal say in whether the baby is aborted. Coin flip wins the decision.


30 posted on 02/23/2012 5:14:26 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Don Corleone

No pun intended..right?


31 posted on 02/23/2012 5:18:36 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Olog-hai
Boobs should be outlawed...!!!

Boobs in government that is!!

32 posted on 02/23/2012 5:20:32 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Olog-hai

Why are Democrats meddling in a Man’s Reproductive Rights?


33 posted on 02/23/2012 5:37:51 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Osage Orange

You had my blood pressure going up for a second there.


34 posted on 02/23/2012 5:39:59 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Boogieman

The Democrats and the media want the public to think that the Republican Party and the Catholic Church are trying to prevent people from having access to contraception. The Catholic Church teaches that artificial contraception is wrong, but it’s not trying to use the power of the state to prevent people who disagree with its position from getting condoms or birth control pills. They are just opposed to the state forcing them to pay for something they consider immoral.


35 posted on 02/23/2012 5:45:45 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Vasectomy IS sterilization, and as such is equivalent to HYSTERECTOMY, NOT abortion.

Actually, a vasectomy in men is equivalent to a tubal ligation in women.

A hysterectomy would be more like castration.

Nevertheless your main point is correct.

36 posted on 02/23/2012 5:55:39 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Yes!


37 posted on 02/23/2012 6:10:52 PM PST by Floyd Rivers
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To: John Valentine

*aarrrgggghhhh*


38 posted on 02/23/2012 7:16:45 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Yes, that’s true, but a larger part of their agenda is to cloud the topic of abortion, a losing issue for them, by tying it all up in a package with “Reproductive Rights”. Still, that phrase didn’t resonate enough, so they have come up with this “Republicans want to take your birth control” meme in order to make us look irrational on the whole issue.


39 posted on 02/23/2012 7:32:13 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

seems like a good topic for the Moral Absolutes ping list

We should just let these guys move forward with the proposal, and allow everyone to see how ridiculous their position is.


40 posted on 02/23/2012 8:52:39 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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