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To: Harlan1196
The law of the land is that being born on US soil = NBC.

"Natural born citizen" is a condition, not a title. The law cannot make you one thing or the other. Just as being born in a stable will not make you a donkey, being born somewhere will not make you a "natural citizen." If it did, slaves and Indians would have been citizens. Being born as a "natural citizen" is a condition, such as having brown hair. You either have it, or you do not have it.

What YOU refer to is a misunderstanding of the law. Yes, in most people's common misunderstanding (to include most lawyers who were wrongly taught) being born here makes you a citizen, (because of the 14th amendment) but that is not the same thing as being born a "natural citizen."

I know you disagree vehemently but WKA made it so and Ankeny confirmed it. And that is how it will play out through November.

Ankeny is utter crap. I won't even debate Ankeny because it is so ignorantly stupid it doesn't even warrant notice. Wong Kim Ark, on the other hand, did not assert that being born here makes you a "natural born citizen", it explicitly stated that being born here (by virtue of the 14th amendment) makes you a "citizen."

Since the meaning of the term "natural born citizen" was well known to the Gray Supreme court, their decision to omit the words "natural born" was intentional, not a mistake. As a result, their ruling had nothing to do with Presidential eligibility requirements.

"Natural born citizen" is a condition, not a title. It cannot be bestowed on anyone for whom it is not already true. A "natural citizen" is one upon whom only ONE NATION can claim their loyalty.

If you have a claim on your loyalty from more than one nation, you are not a "natural" citizen.

45 posted on 02/17/2012 3:19:33 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Harlan1196
"Since the meaning of the term "natural born citizen" was well known to the Gray Supreme court, their decision to omit the words "natural born" was intentional, not a mistake. As a result, their ruling had nothing to do with Presidential eligibility requirements."

Correct. And such a ruling is in perfect keeping with the philosophy of Judicial Restraint. Such was also demonstrated in Minor: "For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to resolve those doubts."

193 posted on 02/18/2012 6:04:47 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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