Posted on 02/12/2012 2:15:12 PM PST by parksstp
Apologies if this double posted (Server Error Messgage keeps repeating)
Its time to take a closer look at how the race will most likely stand at the conclusion of Super Tuesday. This is just my estimates, based on proportional allocation, however, I default to the experts at http://www.thegreenpapers.com. They are probably the most comprehensive in terms of what is an incredibly confusing process. This is a long analysis, but I wanted to have all the facts and data down. First, here are the projections up through what is known as of Maine:
IOWA (28) Okay, so heres what we know. 28 delegates. Santorum won, but Romney was virtually tied with him. Most likely, both get a minimum of 7 delegates. Ron Paul was somewhat close, gets out most likely 6 delegates. Newt Gingrich comes out with at least 3, but maybe 4 delegates. It depends on whether Rick Perry picked up 1 or 2 delegates. At the IA convention, the 2 Perry delegates will be free to support whomever. Both will probably go to whoever remains in the race or is performing the strongest. As for IAs 3 Superdelegates, Kim Lehman pledged her support to Santorum. Steve Scheffler has not made an endorsement, and IA GOP Chair Matt Strawn resigned amid voting issues in IA. AJ Spiker replaced Strawn as IA GOP Chairman and he endorsed Ron Paul. So, after IA, that leaves us with the following count:
Santorum (8), Romney (7), Paul (7), Gingrich (3), Uncommitted Del/Super (3)
NEW HAMPSHIRE (12) Romney dominated one of his back-yard states, so no big surprises here. NH has some rule about having to get 10% of the vote to qualify for delegates, so Santorum and Newt got shut out. Best estimates where that Romney got about 7 delegates, Paul 3, and Huntsman 2, but Huntsman pulled out a few days later. More than likely, Huntsmans 2 delegates will probably go to Romney, but well leave them in the Uncommitted Del category because they will be free to support whomever. Also, NH Superdelegates John Sununu, Sean Mahoney, and Phylis Woods do not have voting rights at the convention for NHs violation of RNC rules. So after NH, that leaves us with the following count:
Romney (14), Paul (10), Santorum (8), Gingrich (3), Uncommitted Del/Super (5)
SOUTH CAROLINA (25) This is the state where Newt Gingrich made his move and dominated the vote. Gingrich won all Congressional districts except Charleston and Columbia, which were won by Romney. Like NH, SC was penalized in violation of RNC rules, so Superdelegates Karen Floyd, Glenn McCall, and Cindy Costa do not have voting privileges at the RNC. Delegates are winner-take all by Congressional District. So after SC, that leaves us with the following count:
Gingrich (26),Romney (16), Paul (10), Santorum (8), Uncommitted Del/Super (5)
FLORIDA (50) The big prize so far. Romney won this winner-take-all state. Because Florida violated RNC rules, they were penalized half their delegates, and Superdelegates Chair (Vacant), Paul Senft Jr, and Sharon Day will not have voting rights at the convention. After FL, the delegate counts stands as:
Romney(76),Gingrich(26),Paul(10),Santorum(8),Uncommitted Del/Super (5)
NEVADA (28) Romney was able to take 50% of the vote. All delegates in NV are tied to the caucus/convention, so Superdelegates Sue Lowden, Joseph Brown, and Heidi Smith do not get voting rights. Using % allocation, that gives Romney about 14 delegates, Gingrich 6, Paul 5, and Santorum 3, giving us the following new totals:
Romney(90), Gingrich(32),Paul(15),Santorum(11),Uncommitted Del/Super (5)
MINNESOTA (40) Rick Santorum pulled off a shocking upset here. While this is a 2-step process in getting delegates to the RNC, assuming all candidates representation at the state convention remains somewhat constant, Santorum will get about 16 delegates, Paul 10, Romney 6 or 7, and Gingrich 3 or 4. Additionally, Superdelegates here do have a say. Pat Shortridge and Pat Anderson remain uncommitted. Jeff Johnson has endorsed Newt Gingrich. After Minnesota, the delegate count stands as follows:
Romney (96), Gingrich (36), Santorum (28), Paul (25), Uncommitted (8)
COLORADO (36) In probably the biggest stunner of the primary season, Rick Santorum scored an upset victory in what was supposed to be a heavily favored Romney state. Using proportional allocation, Santorum has about 13 delegates, Romney 12, and both Gingrich and Paul about 4. In terms of Superdelegates , Ryan Call, Mark Hillman, and Lily Nunez all remain uncommitted. Good thing too beacause former Chair Dick Wadhams was a personal friend of Karl Rove. After CO, the vote counts as follows:
Romney(108), Santorum (41), Gingrich (40), Paul (29), Uncommitted (11)
MAINE (24) Romney edged out Ron Paul to take the state caucus. Incredible, when you think about the fact that 5,500 people voted have as many delegates at stake as the 600,000 people that voted in SC. Yeah, that makes sense, but whatever. In terms of Superdelegates, Charlie Webster has not publically endorsed anyone, but Jan Staples and Richard Bennett have both endorsed Romney. This will give Romney about 11 delegates come state convention time. Ron Paul will probably have about 8 delegates. Rick Santorum gets around 3, but could be 4 depending on the results in Washington County next week. Newt Gingrich probably gets at least 1 delegate. So, after Maines contest, we have the following numbers:
Romney (119), Santorum (44), Gingrich (41), Paul (37), Uncommitted (12)
Additionally, not included in this count, Romney has 16 Superdelegates from states or territories that will vote later. Gingrich has 2 Superdelegates from future contests, and Santorum, Paul have 0. There are currently 94 Undecided or Uncommitted Delegates. Adding the full commitment totals yields the following current results after the Maine Caucuses:
Romney (135)
Santorum (44)
Gingrich (43)
Paul (37)
Uncommitted Soft Delegates (4) (Perry & Huntsmans Delegates)
Uncommitted Super Delegates (94)
Remaining Primary/Caucus Delegates: (1,930)
Arizona (29) Delegates This is winner take all. Also, a note of caution to the Gingrich people if Newt wins here. AZ is violating RNC rules with the same WTA format that FL conducted. Should Newt be successful in FL in getting a share of the delegates there, Romney may be able to offset that loss of delegates with an equally proportionate showing in AZ should he end up losing the AZ primary, because in a situation where Gingrich would win, Romney would still most likely take Northern AZ and Flagstaff where the Mormon population is strongest, along with other rural areas, while Gingrich would get a plurality in Maricopa and Sierra Vista, but Romney would still get a decent share of support around 20-25% giving him some delegates. In a proportional setting, if Romney lost, he could still get out of AZ with as many as 13 delegates. If FLs vote is apportioned where Newt could get 16 delegates (32% of 50), Romney might only suffer a net loss of 3 delegates. Just something to keep in mind for later on down the road. Also, Superdelegates in AZ have no voting rights, all 29 delegates are tied to the primary.
Michigan (30) This is similar to SC where winner take all by CD and a Bonus for winning the state. Santorum and Gingrich both eye CD1, CD2 with good chances. CD3 (Grand Rapids) was close last time. CD4 is competitive. Romney did okay well in CD5(Bay) . CD6 (SW) was a strong McCain area. The rest of the districts on the East towards Lansing and Detroit were very good for Romney. Still, even if Romney carries MI, with WTA by CD here, either Santorum or Gingrich could pick up at least 6-8 Delegates. Superdelegates do not have voting rights at the convention.
Alaska (27) Okay, heres another state where 11,620 voted in 2008, and yet they have more delegates in AK than the 600,000 people who voted in SC? LOL. Romney pretty much cleaned up as the outsider candidate at the Super Tuesday caucuses in 2008, but this time things tend to be different in Sarah Palins backyard. Compare this to the 109,000 that voted in the GOP Senate primary where Miller upset Murkowski. Alaska allocates delegates proportionally. Combined, Santorum and Gingrich should easily make up 60-65% of the vote here. It wont be necessary, per se, for the weaker organization to join the stronger, unless one cares a lot about the margin of victory over Romney. At best, Romney probably gets no more than 25% here, which would be about 6 delegates, with Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul getting the other 18. Additionally, all 3 Alaska Superdelegates (Debby Joslin, Randy Ruedrich, Ralph Seekins) are uncommitted as of today.
Idaho (32) The race was over in 2008 when Idaho voted, so no idea what Romneys strength was, but Ron Paul got 24% in a two man race with McCain. Also, Superdelegates do not have voting rights in Idaho. Unlike Alaska, Idahos rules will compel Gingrich and Santorum to possibly merge together per caucus rules. Voting is done until a candidate gets 50% of the vote for that county or until two names are left. In other words, if Gingrich or Santorum can get 50% across the state county caucuses as a whole of the statewide total, one of the two will most likely win all 32 delegates. Otherwise, if the statewide leader has <50% total, the delegates will be allocated proportionally. If done correctly, there is NO reason why Romney should win ANY delegates in ID. Just going off the CO numbers, they should be able to hit 50% combined in just about every county. Hopefully, both teams will realize this before it is too late. My guess is Santorum is in better shape here for the time being.
North Dakota (28) Once again, another state has the same number of delegates at stake as IA where 122,000 people voted, yet only 9,524 voted in 2008. ND rules state this is proportional. Compare this to John Hoeven, who didnt have anyone running against him in the ND primary and still got 64,000 votes. All 3 North Dakota Superdelegates (Sandy Boehler, Curly Haugland, and Stan Stein) are uncommitted. If turnout is high, Romney shouldnt get more than 20% of the vote, in fact, it could be far worse for him. Not a requirement here for Santorum and Gingrich to team up, their supporters just have to come out and vote. I have to believe there are far more of them then there are of Romney supporters in ND. The biggest issue is that Hoeven apparentally endorsed Romney back in November. Whether that translates to votes here, I dont know.
Oklahoma (43) This state will be worse than SC for Romney. The only place he finished 2nd ahead of Huckabee was in Okie City where he still was 8,000 votes behind McCain. OK is winner take all by CD and statewide. Evangelicals dominate the state, especially in the East, but are all around for the most part. Romney wont win a single CD here and most likely wont even campaign here. This is either Santorum or Gingrich. As of right now, the state lines up better for Santorum as a Midwest state. Additionally, all 3 Superdelegates (James Dunn, Carolyn McLarty, and Matt Pinnell) are uncommitted.
Virginia (49) As good as OK is for Santorum or Gingrich, Romney has the ability to offset it in VA thanks to the most ridiculous rules for gaining access to the ballot, and the unconstitutional manner of disallowing write-in votes. For those waiting for a Gingrich comeback, I will make the prediction that in the Feb 22 debate, Newt will turn his indignation towards the VA primary snuff. I guarantee you hes already working that in now as we speak. Whether or not it will make a difference, I dont know. While Paul is certain to get protest votes, it probably wont be enough to keep Romney from claiming 50% of the vote and all 46 delegates. Meanwhile, Superdelegates Morton Blackwell, Pat Mullins, and Kathy Terry remain uncommitted, which may be the only 3 delegates really up for grabs to Santorum or Gingrich.
Massachusetts (41) If Romney had not been given the VA gift, he would still have been able to offset OK with MA. He has already won the backing of 2 of the 3 Superdelegates in Bob Maginn and Rob Kaufmann. Only Jody Dow remains uncommitted. Romney won everything in East Mass last time except Boston proper, which was very close. Hell likely carry all of that again. If Gingrich or Santorum have a chance to win any delegates, its going to come from the West. However, Romney lost those counties by just a few hundred votes. In most likelihood, he will probably sweep the state. There isnt any kind of base for Gingrich or Santorum to target, similar to NH. Even Ron Paul doesnt have a base to work from here. The requirements are that a candidate must get 15% of the vote to qualify for delegates based on proportional allocation of the statewide vote. Maybe one of them can get there, but its hard to see how both get there. If they do, though, its 6 delegates. This is a state that Gingrich/Santorum supporters should combine based on how the polls line up, to ensure Romney doesnt get all the delegates.
Vermont (17) The race was over by the time VT voted in 2008. Still Romney is heavily favored to win in what can only be described as one of the most liberal Republican states in the country. Its winner take all by district or winner take all if candidate receives a majority. Theres only 1 CD, so assuming Romney wins VT hell have 3 delegates. It then becomes a matter of whether Romney gets to 50% or not. If he does, he wins 11 more. If not, the 11 delegates are allocated proportionately. Like NH, ME, and MA, theres really no where in VT for Gingrich and Santorum to target. This might be another ideal location for Ron Paul. The good news is that theres no threshold to meet to get delegates if Romney fails to get >50%. Still, in theory, one has to win about 9% of the state vote to qualify for a delegate. I guess those numbers add up. Also, some conflicting rules between Green Papers and Superdelegate list. The list says they are bound to VTs results, while the Green Papers say the attend unbound. For the record the 3 Superdelegates are Susie Hudson, Pat McDonald, and George Schiavone.
Georgia (76) The funny thing about the 2008 primary. Mitt Romneys strongest area was Atlanta and the surrounding suburbs, which included Gingrichs old House seat. Something tells me he wont get that same success again. Romneys only other areas of strength were running about even in the other cities (Athens, Macon, Savannah, Augusta, and Columbus. Based on how delegates are allocated, theres an excellent chance for Rick Santorum to pick up delegates. Essentially, GA has 14 CDs and 3 delegates per CD. If a candidate gets 50% of the vote in that CD, they win all 3 delegates, otherwise it is a 2-1 split between the first place and second place in the district. Santorum could very well finish 2nd in many of these district and gain about 8 or 9 delegates. Additionally, 31 delegates are allocated based on the statewide total, which mandates a 20% threshold. This is bad news for Romney, who in the latest poll on Friday, got 16% of the vote. At most, Romney might get 11 delegates out of GA, or he might not get anything. The GA Superdelegates are also bound to support the statewide winner of the popular vote, which will most likely be Gingrich. Assuming Gingrich won GA with 45% and all of the CDs under 50%, he would have about 45 delegates. If Rick Santorum can finish second in these 14 CDs and keep Newt <50% in each of them, and pick up around 30% of the vote, he would get about 23 delegates. In the end, it doesnt matter the delegate allocation between Gingrich and Santorum, the point is Romney isnt going to get them. Romney might finish 2nd in some of the city-dominated CDs and pick up about 3 or 4 delegates that way, but if he falls under 20% in the state, hell be shut out from getting any of the 31 delegates at stake. In other words, its highly unlikely Romney gets any more than 10 delegates total here, if that.
Tennessee (58) Lets start with the easy part. All 3 Superdelegates (Chris Devaney, Peggy Lambert, and John Ryder) are uncommitted. TN sort of has rules like GA, but a little different. 27 Delegates are allocated via CD and you either have to win 2/3 of the CD vote or finish over 50% in the CD with no one else getting over 20% to get all 3 delegates. With both Gingrich and Santorum projected to do well in this conservative state, that appears unlikely. The next rule is that the two highest vote getters with over 20% in the CD get a 2-1 split on delegates. Romney ran strongest in Nashville last time, McCain dominated Knoxville, and Huckabee won Memphis and most of the rural areas. 14 Delegates are allocated proportionally statewide, with a 20% threshold, unless a candidate gets 2/3 of the statewide vote. The other 14 are appointed by Executive committee. Its these 14 that were made an issue in regards to the Santorum campaign not fielding a full slate of delegates. Except for maybe Nashville, Gingrich and Santorum will be expected to finish 1-2 in most of the Congressional districts. Assuming Romney gets 25% of the vote, and maybe a 2nd place in two of the Congressional districts, he can probably get 6 delegates. A strong 2nd for Santorum or Gingrich with 30% of the vote would yield about 11 delegates. Winning with 40% of the vote would yield 24 delegates. The Executive Committee and Superdelegates would then be added in. Most likely, these will go to either Gingrich or Santorum. Ron Paul appears shut out in here and in GA based on the 20% threshold.
Ohio (66) Once again start with the easy stuff. All 3 Superdelegates are Uncommitted (Robert Bennett, Jo Ann Davidson, Kevin DeWine). 48 Delegates (3per CD) are allocated based on the winner of the CD without regard to the winning percentage, the winner gets all 3. The remaining 15 delegates are allocated proportionally based on the statewide total unless someone wins the state with more than 50% of the vote, which is unlikely with both Santorum and Gingrich in the race. Like TN and GA, to receive a portion of the 15 delegates requires a 20% threshold statewide total. OH is the big prize of Super Tuesday. Last time the race was over by the time it was held. But because there is no 50% requirement in each of the CDs, a close race will make the delegate allocation close. Santorums strength is going to be in the rust belt in the South and Southeast and PA border counties, Romney will be around the cities, Gingrich will be out west. Without going CD by CD, its quite possible all 3 get out with 20 delegates each, based on current polling. We will have to see.
Washington (43) The state set-up seems similar to MN and COs non-binding caucuses. This is a classic battle of East v West. Eastern Washington (Spokane) is heavily conservative, especially with Catholic and Evangelical support. Huckabee nearly had enough support to win the caucus, but McCain won just enough in the West in Seattle/Tacoma to offset it. Ron Paul also got a decent amount of support here with 22%. Given how the vote went in CO and MN, Id have to give the edge to Santorum, but the delegate allocation (which is non-binding) may be close with Romney winning in Seattle and Tacoma. Superdelegates Jeff Kent, Fredi Simpson, and Kirby Wilbur are all uncommitted.
So the bottom line, what are we looking at as of the conclusion of Super Tuesday.
Based on the above information, in the best case scenario for Romney, he wins the AZ Primary (29), wins Michigan (21), Virginia (46), Vermont with 50%(17), Massachusetts (34), and wins delegates in AK(6), ND(5), GA(11), TN(6), OH(22), WA (15).
Add this to Romney previous total as of Maine and at the end of Super Tuesday, hell have around 345 Delegates (2 Supers in Mass were already accounted for).
Ill combine Gingrich/Santorum totals because by the time we get to Super Tuesday, they might flip again. Between the two, they should be able to pick up delegates in MI(6), MA(6), AK(18), ID(32), ND(16), OK(43), GA(65), TN(49), OH(41), WA (19).
Add this to Gingrich/Santorums previous total as of Maine and at the end of Super Tuesday, they should have a combined 382 Delegates between the two.
Meanwhile, looks like a tough month for Ron Paul. Hell get maybe 6 delegates in WA, maybe 4 delegates in ND. The threshold and CD allocation really hurt him, along with IDs caucus rules. Hell be at 47 Delegates total at the end of Super Tuesday.
And hence, we see the dynamic start to form. Romney/Paul will be projected to have 392 delegates to Gingrich/Santorums 382 at the end of Super Tuesday. This is important because like I mentioned before, if Romney has to get Rand onto the ticket to secure the nomination and Ron Pauls delegates' support at a brokered convention, he most certainly will do so.
Super Tuesday Final Projected Totals
Romney 345 Delegates
Santorum/Gingrich 382 Delegates
Paul 47 Delegates
Uncommitted Primary/Caucus Delegates (4 2 for Perry and 2 for Huntsman)
Uncommitted Superdelegates: 94
Remaining Primary/Caucus Delegates: (1,415)
Sorry for the long post, but didn't want to leave any analysis out. Same info is in the Google Docs link.
-PJ
No, "OUTSTANDING WORK!"
I've been a Republican since Ike, and have lived in Massachusetts off and on for my entire life.
I'm ashamed to admit that I've never heard of our 3 Super Delegates.
A few things you may want to consider:
Michael Steele was on TV after Fl and said the rule changing distribution of delegates was passed during his tenure. That no exception was made for Florida in that rule. They must abide by the rule. Priebus wrote them a letter in FL saying they had to distribute the votes proportionately. Here is a copy of the rule.
Encourage them to do the RIGHT thing: end the FL fiasco NOW!
Play by RULE 15:B:2
ALSO: The AG of VA is looking into the person who Newt hired to collect signatures and fraudulently didn't complete the job. Newt turned him in for voter fraud.....It's not over particularly if it is determined that the action was done on purpose.
THIRD: Jon Huntsman is Willard's cousin. The Huntsman family fortune is intertwined in Bain/Romney. Huntsman was nothing more than a straw candidate who was in place to collect the ABR vote thus keeping it from other candidates. His two votes may be crucial in the final tally.
On this FL thing, you need to exercise caution.
What is the Constitutionality of the RNC dictating to a State when it can hold it’s primary/caucuses and how it allocates those delegates?
If the RNC is determined to have the authority to do this, then they have the authority to completely ignore every caucus/primary and select delegates by their own choosing in a manner that suits them. The RNC doesn’t like the slate of delegates sent to them by the states? Fine, they go and change them up in a manner that suits them.
I don’t believe the RNC has this kind of authority (thankfully) and that any state can hold it’s contest and allocate its delegates in a manner it sees fit. Personally, the states should file a lawsuit against the RNC because Rule 15 appears to violate equal protection and states rights. No one has ever done this though because the penalty is not severe (1/2 delegate slash isn’t all that, if there were all 100 delegates in FL, all it would do is raise the required number of delegates from 1,144 to 1,194.
If it were a government branch you would be correct, but it's not.
Political parties are private organizations, and courts have always held that they should be able to choose their candidates as they see fit. Primary elections are creatures of state law, but parties can usually opt out of them and nominate by other means. A state political party is free to opt out of their national party’s choice, but that’s only happened twice (1948 and 1960, when Dixiecrat dissatisfaction with the national nominee led to Elector slates in favor of Strom Thurmond and Harry Flood Byrd, respectively).
For later information. Thanks for this post.
He dealt with Florida pretty well. He said NM has the same “winner-take-all”, and Gingrich should win them, but if Newt successfully appeals Florida, the same rules would apply to NM, and it could only flip 3 delegates between the two states.
Now there's a powerhouse ticket: Mitt Romney & Rand Paul.
Please be wrong.
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