[PapaBear3625]

The only difference between a liberal and a social(ist) conservative is which side of the spectrum they wish to use to infringe upon our rights. This is why I left the conservative movement. socialism is as socialism does, and social(ist) conservatives are indeed socialists....

I've had more than one social conservative come out in opposition to reduction in welfare benefits, on the argument that this would provide an incentive to abort.

There are times that I think there are quite a few social conservatives who, if presented with a deal where the Dems agree to restrictions on abortion and pornography in exchange for an expansion of the Nanny State and its funding, would take the deal.

[Responsibility2nd]

There are times that I think there are quite a few social conservatives who, if presented with a deal where the Dems agree to restrictions on abortion and pornography in exchange for an expansion of the Nanny State and its funding, would take the deal.

I'm a socon and I have no problems with this. Especially when you contrast it with the opposite argument. Which - sad to say - is already in play:

There are times that I think there are quite a few LIBERTARAIANS who, if presented with a deal where the Dems agree to DECREASE restrictions on abortion and pornography in exchange for a DECREASE of the Nanny State and its funding, would take the deal.