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To: edge919

Heya edge....

That isn’t what Leo is doing here, he isn’t informing the average lay person per say. He is offering research for use by the lawyers who are litigating Obama’s ballot eligibility cases.

The Ankney case incorrectly discarded the concept that it takes two parents as well as being born in the United States in order to be a Natural Born Citizen. The Ankney case states that anyone born here, regardless of parentage, can run for POTUS.

Malihi in Georgia used the Ankney case to justify ruling for the Defendant Obama, even though no evidence of Obama’s eligibility was presented BY Obama.

Ankney relied upon WKA and its holding to come to IT’S decision, and because the WKA decision itself if based upon false and incorrect information, totally destroys the foundation of not only WKA, but ALSO of Ankney.

What we have here is the historical legal keys NECESSARY in in reaching a CORRECT decision for the future SCOTUS appeal in the Georgia Case.

If Leo’s research is made part of the SCOTUS appeal, as part of the case for Obama’s INeligibility for POTUS, and SCOTUS makes to historically correct legal decision as it MUST upon accepting the historically accurate EVIDENCE Leo presents, then we the people will FINALLY get a correct definition of Natural Born Citizen, in a modern day case. We have it already in Minor. This will be the 6 feet of dirt over the grave of the after-birthers arguments that anyone born in the USA is a natural Born Citizen.


6 posted on 02/07/2012 1:25:47 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae

Except Thomas says SCOTUS is “evading” the issue, Ginsburg says the US Constitution is “old” and “outdated”, and Sotomayor and Kagan will do anything to keep the kenyan in power. As the court now stands, we might have Thomas, Scalia and Alito on our side but that’s it.


10 posted on 02/07/2012 2:32:43 PM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: Danae
We need the definition covered on both sides -- (1) What one must be to be a natural(ly) born citizen, and (2) what must one not be to assure deselection re loyalties. Can he/she be in vitro fertilized to an otherwise childless couple? Are we at a point where paternity (or even maternity) ought to be proven by DNA be submitted for proof? What if the hypothesis of Frank Marshall Davis was really true and Obama Sr was just a stand-in? Hate to think about such things, but must look at it logically, not morally (Oliver Wendell Holmes' point of view). "Who is my father?" one could always ask. Used to be that "Who is my mother?" was never up for grabs (=how was Jewish heritage always certainly determined and passed). But -- now -- what? And -- in the future? Will we get clones?? Would certainly blur the reach of the Constitution ---
16 posted on 02/07/2012 4:42:05 PM PST by imardmd1 (Is. 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together," saith The LORD ...)
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To: Danae

I’m behind on this issue. I thought there weren’t any more eligibility cases in the pipeline? What case(s) are still out there that might come to SCOTUS?

I don’t think this GA ballot issue can be appealed to SCOTUS because it’s up to the several states to determine eligibility to be on the ballot and now Malahi and GA’s SoS have both determined Obama is, by their lights, eligible to be on the GA ballot. Of course, I never thought it was within the purview of an ALJ to interpret “natural born citizen,” either.

It’s a little late for Obama but we have a full generation of “anchor babies” who, as it stands, are deemed eligible to run for POTUS. The evading this SCOTUS has done on this question is very unfortunate.


29 posted on 02/07/2012 9:35:48 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Danae
That isn’t what Leo is doing here, he isn’t informing the average lay person per say. He is offering research for use by the lawyers who are litigating Obama’s ballot eligibility cases.

Maybe, but it doesn't come across as useful research when it's filled with unnecessary asides:

"Still, the opinion doesn’t run and hide like a sissy from tough issues."

"Consider that Justice Gray was appointed by Chester Arthur, a man born of an alien father. "

"Unfortunately, in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, we have the second worst piece of stinky refuse the Court has ever passed wind upon."

"But first, let me stoke your paranoia."

Stuff like this waters down the point and its generally sloppy. Are lawyers supposed to be presenting this as part of their analysis?? Courts don't want to wade through a bunch of excessive verbiage any more than the average person. If we're going to attack WKA as the second worst SCOTUS decision, then you're asking a court to go way over its head.

It's great that Leo found a problem with the Binney citation. There are plenty of other problems in the WKA decision too, such as citations to dissent in cases that don't support Gray's conclusion, etc. Packaging and framing those problems will work if it can be done in a way that doesn't require a court to think it needs to overturn a landmark SCOTUS decision. How are these points of law specifically relevant to Obama??

36 posted on 02/07/2012 10:50:41 PM PST by edge919
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