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To: opentalk
In the fight against climate change, the Mojave Desert is about to take one for the team. Yet barely a whimper raised by environmentalists over the scale and impact of these projects on what they claim to hold most sacred. Hypocrites!

Damn straight!

These environazis are always lying hypocrites.

As it so happened, last spring I was out in the Mojave Desert doing bird surveys with another surveyor and we came across a large group of people walking across the desert. Thinking they may be doing wildlife surveys too, we stopped and talked to them. They said they were doing tortoise studies. To determine the number of tortoises, they fan out across the desert and walk -- literally.

We asked them why they were doing the studies here, and they said that a huge solar power project was in the works to be built near the area. We were stunned.

But interestingly enough, the half a dozen people we talked to didn't seem pleased by this huge solar project. Later, I talked to my bird surveyor partner about this, and she said that schisms are forming in the environmentalist movement regarding solar power and the large tracts of land they require. It seems civil wars are brewing in the leftists camps.

Idiot vs Idiot.

Thanks for the post!

7 posted on 02/07/2012 10:48:21 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Flycatcher

Wind turbines kill thousands of birds and solar projects tear up fragile desert habitats. A coal or natural gas power plant takes up a fraction of the surface area and provides reliable, economical power regardless of wind or sun conditions.

Yes they are hypocrites. Here in NM, the environazis were quiet when X-governor Richardson built his railroad up the fragile La Bajada cliffs south of Santa Fe. An environmental assessment was quickly performed and accepted with little controversy and the RR was built. Try to build a new highway and see what happens. BTW, as noted elsewhere in a post earlier today, that RR has little ridership, takes about twice as long to get to SF as does the highway and loses millions each year with the taxpayers picking up the difference.


11 posted on 02/07/2012 11:09:36 AM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: Flycatcher
a related thread, highlights hypocrisy -that turtle is listed as a threatened species under the U.S. and California endangered species acts.

Feds find BrightSource solar project will not jeopardize desert tortoise

... --I wrote that it was unlikely the expected population explosion would derail Ivanpah, given all the political and economic capital on the line, including a $1.6 billion federal loan guarantee and a half billion dollars from Google, Morgan Stanley and other investors.

And sure enough, late Friday the United States Fish and Wildlife Service allowed construction to proceed, finding in a revised biological opinion that Ivanpah would not jeopardize the continued existence of the tortoise, which is listed as a threatened species under the U.S. and California endangered species acts--

14 posted on 02/07/2012 11:20:32 AM PST by opentalk
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