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Posted on 02/06/2012 10:01:57 PM PST by Steelfish
“Gingrich isn’t on the ballot in the Missouri “beauty contest” primary”
“Romney is no more eligible than Obama to hold the office of the POTUS”
It is my understanding that both of his parents were naturalised citizens at the time of his birth.
Again— Romney spoke in Grand Jct. said nothing about Mass. being the State model for Obama Care. Romney said nothing about his role in Mass. being 1st to change laws to allow for the dilution of “marriage” and thus dividing the nation against itself. Thus far he has offered nothing to suggest he is the better choice compared to Obama.His attempt at Patriotism came off as Gay -suggesting Pursuit of Happiness meant doing your own thing. IMO “Life , Liberty and Happiness... was a direct reflection of Virginia Resolves written by George Mason that also reflected John Lockes ideas.Why Jefferson and modern pols exclude “property” does a disservice...and lads to statism.
Knock it off!
You make my hair hurt!
*******raspberry*********
Have you seen anywhere the dates of naturalization? No, because it’s not there. Most, especially politicians who want to garner the patriotic vote, are proud of their naturalization and will pronounce it from the mountain tops. Nowhere in papa George Romney’s bios is it mentioned anywhere. Nowhere in Mitt’s bios is it mentioned, either. If you have the dates then please let me know because I’ve yet to find anyone who knows.
There were rumors about George not being a NBC back when he ran for POTUS but he dropped out before any serious investigation was started.
There are far too many bills in recent years being brought to the congressional floor to change the US Constitution. Each bill mentions NBC so they all know the two US citizen parent defininition. What’s funny strange is that despite starting out with NBC, they each skip around it to focus on a length of time, i.e. 20 years as a citizen. Each time it was struck down. McCaskill et al couldn’t get the Constitution changed legally so they’re doing it illegally. Right out in the open. Under everyone’s nose. And not a peep out of two branches of government.
So, yes. The fix for Romney was in four years ago. Once he’s been elected, that makes the Obama administration legit so there’s no need to push the reset button. ObamaCare stays. Every appointment stays. Every bill signed stays. It’s a done deal.
I’d like to be proved wrong. Seriously, someone please prove me wrong. Prove this isn’t a play to trash the US Constitution.
You may have a point. The argument for George’s citizenship is by his parents citizenship at his birth in Mexico.
I miss our Herman threads and seeing you on here daily! Thought you might find this humorous:
I just talked to my 93 year-old dad and when we spoke of watching the primary results tonight on FNC, he said he voted this morning (we’re in MO) but since Newt wasn’t on the ballot and Herman Cain was, he voted for Herman! LOL
“But you might also keep this in mind: If Mitt Romney wins all three contests tomorrow, it’s not the end of the race—but it might be the beginning of the end.”
Yes, BK, we’ll keep that in mind. That’s why we’re doing all we can to see that he wins as few contests as possible. I kind of liked the posts yesterday talking about Newt and Rick agreeing to keep Mittens on the ropes by each taking the states they’re already strongest in (maybe working together?), keeping him in the weaker spot of having to attack first one then the other, back and forth.
They just announced that Santorum won here in MO - WHOO-HOO! (And I’m for Newt :-)
I’d heard or read somewhere that under Mexican law, a child of foreign (in this case, U.S.) parents, even if that child is born in Mexico, is not granted Mexican citizenship. So I’m guessing that meant that Mittens’ father was always considered to be a U.S. citizen like HIS parents were.
Anyone?
I don’t pretend to even start to understand the laws of Mexico but I do know that citizenship is not automatic for children born in Mexico of foreign parents but it is possible or at least it definately was in the past. Many LDS including many of Romney’s family fled to Mexico to escape polygamy laws in the U.S. most became Mexican citizens, some have dual citizenship (as recognized by Mexico) and some are just citizens of the United States. Some families fled back to the United States during the Mexican Revolution to further cloud the issue of their citizenship. Some LDS are even moving back to the U.S. now from Mexico to flee the drug war so somehow at least some have managed to keep their U.S. citizenship as well as Mexican citizenship.
I have heard that at the time of the large LDS migration to Mexico children born in Mexico of foreign parents could choose their citizenship (not sure if that included everyone or was just a special rule for the LDS that moved there)- parents could choose Mexican citizenship for their children or the children could so do for themselves after they reached a certain age. I have been told by Mexican citizens that Romney could claim Mexican citizenship now if he chose to do so. As far as I have heard Mitt Romney has never showed any interest in his family’s Mexican heritage/history even though he has Aunts, Uncles, cousins, etc. that are very prominent, very wealthy Mexican citizens/residents.
Mexican law doesn’t trump the US Constitution.
Of course it doesn’t. My point was that in many countries, a child born there who has parents from another country then has dual citizenship (which would then make him/her ineligible for POTUS per our Constitution). But since Mexico doesn’t grant a foreign-parented child Mexican citizenship, then I assumed Mittens’ father was considered an American citizen only.
I’m not clear on what our Constitution says about that - does it consider such a child to have dual citizenship anyway?
Interesting - thanks!
I think its pretty clear that the loser lawyer Santrorum is being bankrolled by Romney supporters to destroy Gingrich.
Minneapolis Star Tribune-2/8/12
“Mitt Romney and Foster Friess, a wealthy donor to conservative causes, were walking out of an event together a few months ago when Friess broke the news: After backing Romney for president four years ago, he was getting behind Rick Santorum this time around.
“He couldn’t quite figure out why Rick was even bothering to go through the effort,” Friess recalled Wednesday. “I mean, I don’t mean to fault him for saying, ‘Why take Rick seriously?’ Nobody took Rick seriously.”
Many more Republicans are taking Santorum seriously now, thanks to his victories in Minnesota, Missouri and Colorado on Tuesday — and perhaps none more than Romney, for whom Santorum’s unexpected rise poses another threat from the right.
‘The chairman of my board’
Few people played a more pivotal role in Tuesday’s turn of events than Friess. An investor who made millions in mutual funds and now lives in Wyoming, he is the chief backer of a super PAC that has helped keep Santorum’s candidacy alive by running TV ads on his behalf. His role as outside funder — one that Friess indicated he will continue to play — escalates the battle among a few dozen wealthy Republicans to influence their party’s choice of a presidential nominee.
Friess’ chosen outlet — the Red, White and Blue Fund — provided critical support for Santorum as he sought to resuscitate his campaign. At a time when Santorum could not afford to pay for a single commercial of his own, the fund focused in particular on Minnesota, where the super PAC supporting Romney, Restore Our Future, broadcast a last-minute blitz of ads against him, Kantar Media/CMAG said.
But Friess’ help could prove even more vital in the weeks ahead, as Santorum tries to capitalize on his upset victories to mount a more assertive challenge to Romney and to Newt Gingrich, who has an even more deep-pocketed supporter in the billionaire casino executive Sheldon Adelson, one of nation’s the richest men.
Friess is relatively rare among the major backers of super PACs for his close association with the religious conservative movement. His website quotes Scripture, and he often says that God is “the chairman of my board.”
He is also rare for his willingness to speak openly about his political giving, a break from Adelson, who has not spoken publicly about his donations of $10 million, with his wife, to the super PAC supporting Gingrich.
“There are not many donors who are really willing to be out there as such an advocate,” said the founder of Red, White and Blue, Nick Ryan. “It takes a little bit of the cloak and dagger out of the whole thing.”
‘Best chance to beat Barack Obama’
Friess, 71, said that he likes Santorum for his faith but also believes he is the best candidate to compete with President Obama, whom he blamed for excessive government. He said he came to know Santorum several years ago and particularly approved of his opposition to abortion rights and his hawkish foreign policy stance. “I’m not supporting him for how I’ve known him as a friend,” Friess said. “I’m supporting him because he has the best chance to beat Barack Obama.”
Asked what compelled him to give so much, he said, “No. 1, I think of all the guys that strap a gun on their backs and head to Afghanistan and Iraq to keep us free and safe and maintain what America has stood for, if I put up a million bucks or whatever, it doesn’t’ seem like much of a sacrifice.”
Friess ranks among the nation’s leading patrons of Republican and conservative causes. He has given hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Republican Party and candidates in recent years. Last year, he gave $100,000 to Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin to help fend off a Democratic-led recall effort.
Asked whether he would be prompted to donate more to the super PAC if Romney and the super PAC supporting him stepped up attacks on Santorum, Friess said: “Well, I think that if he does that it is so exciting, because it finally recognizes that Rick Santorum is a threat.”
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