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To: RegulatorCountry

Jefferson and Adams hated each other for several years.
Alexander Hamilton shot another Founder, in a dual.

Our Founders were not of one mind, and had different opinions on many issues.

Congress DOES have the right to interpret and define the Constitution.

Congress also has the right to determine the jurisdiction of the Courts -— including IMMIGRATION COURTS!

Your case, your arguments, are incredibly weak and have no chance of success, in the long run.


19 posted on 02/05/2012 10:08:57 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Actually, Burr and Hamilton shot AT each other, but Hamilton died as a result.

(Thanks for the correction :)


25 posted on 02/05/2012 10:18:52 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
Congress DOES have the right to interpret and define the Constitution.

They do not have the right to alter it, however, without first amending that Constitution, something that was attempted numerous times leading up to 2008, but not accomplished.

Tell me, Kansas58, just how your understanding of the Constitutional term of art "natural-born citizen" jibes with any one of these Bills, some of which were sponsored by Obama himself?

Were they just entertaining themselves with useless gestures, since "natural-born citizen" has always merely meant born on the soil, according to you? What of that Sense of the Senate Resolution, stating that natural-born citizenship required citizen parents? How does that fit into your preferred scenario?

There is a lack of logical consistency to your contentions. Clinging to legislative efforts that can only pertain to naturalization, and portraying them as somehow definitive regarding a citizenship status that is anything but naturalized, defies logic as well.

It appears emotion has gotten the best of you. Why?

29 posted on 02/05/2012 10:24:26 AM PST by RegulatorCountry (+)
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To: Kansas58

I see you are still espousing commie filth...your entire post is commie excrement. Congress cannot interpret the Constitution, to make legislative changes to the Constitution, as you suggest. The USSC interprets the Constitution. Failed civics class, did ya?

Congress can make amendments to the Constitution. It takes a two thirds majority, and then it must be voted upon, and adopted by the states.

The NBC clause was placed in our Constitution to prevent anyone, with any remote possibility of divided allegiance, from becoming POTUS. “Natural Born Citizen” only appears in this one clause, which sets the Constitutional standard to be eligible to serve as Pres, and Vice Pres. Otherwise, the term citizen would have sufficed.

A natural born citizen has two parents, who are both citizens, at the time of birth. Some, like yourself, have sought to pervert the meaning of NBC. Seeking to make anyone born on our soil, even of illegal immigrants, a citizen eligible to become POTUS.

In his letter to Washington, John Jay wrote:
“Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

Now come the commies and the socialists, who seek to redefine the intent of this clause, and the meaning of NBC, to make even an anchor baby eligible to become POTUS.

I will agree, a serious violation of the NBC clause has already occured. Since Obama illegally occupies our Whitehouse. A man of divided loyalties. Obama wholly represents what our founders, with the NBC clause, sought to prevent.

It is a grievous violation that most courts won’t even bother to hear it. And when one does, like the recent Georgia case, the court finds for the defendant, Obama. Even when Obama and his lawyer, under court order, refuse to appear, failing to offer any evidence to rebut the testimony of the plaintiffs, the court finds for the defendant, Obama.

Who gives these judges their marching orders? Under what threats are they failing to honor their lawful duty?


61 posted on 02/05/2012 11:49:26 AM PST by takenoprisoner (Constitutional Conservatism is Americanism.)
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To: Kansas58
Congress DOES have the right to interpret and define the Constitution.

This one sentence proves you are an ignorant idiot, and no one should pay the slightest attention to your noise.

144 posted on 02/05/2012 5:55:13 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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