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What We All Deserve
American Clarion ^ | February 2, 2012 | Gina Miller

Posted on 02/02/2012 7:45:35 PM PST by WXRGina

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To: caww

Fascinating article, dear caww, thank you!


41 posted on 02/03/2012 9:55:04 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: metmom
God's promises are "yes" and "amen" but that is no guarantee that I'll never be sick or struggle with finances but rather that God will provide and not fail me when I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, that His grace will be sufficient.

Indeed. Evidently we are in agreement, dear sister in Christ!

42 posted on 02/03/2012 9:58:07 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: WXRGina

In one of my favorite movies, “Unforgiven” with Clint Eastwood, the kid is trying to make himself feel better for killing a guy:

“Well, I guess they had it coming.”
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“We all have it comin’ kid”, Clint replies.


43 posted on 02/03/2012 9:58:43 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: caww; Alamo-Girl; metmom
But I do question if this is even going to stop what's being stuffed into these kids.

The "stuff" being stuffed into these kids at school is relentlessly reinforced by the popular culture. Meanwhile, their minds and characters are being ruined....

I hope the Cyber-Schooling option with parental supervision will work out well for your grandkids, dear CAWW. I think the best option of all is home schooling. But not every family is in a position to do this.

But if the family can; if the family recognizes that education is about transmitting the culture in addition to skill building in critical thinking, language and math skills, character development, etc.; then it seems to me there's an excellent, time-tested, tried and true core curriculum that is quintessentially American: The McGuffey Readers. It has been used to educate Americans for nigh-on 200 years....

Of course, our progressivist pedagogues nowadays — Bill Ayers comes to mind — create education programmes that are the total inversion of McGuffey. McGuffey is about educating free men and women. Ayers' project is about how to condition men to accept their chains....

All the more reason for the federal government to get OUT of the education business: They keep funding morons like Ayers.

Thank you for your kind words, dear CAWW. God bless your grandkids — and you and all your loved ones!

44 posted on 02/04/2012 10:11:54 AM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; WXRGina; Alamo-Girl; Mind-numbed Robot; metmom; Matchett-PI

WXRGina: And, unless this nation somehow makes a sharp, right-hand U-turn to the Lord, we will continue to get the hell we deserve in increasing measure.

Spirited: Starting in the 60’s a new spirituality began sweeping over and across America. That ‘new’ spirituality was Vedanta monism, the underlying foundation of many seemingly different “new” spiritualities, be they Hinduism, Wicca, Gnosticism, Mythology, Jungian Depth Psychology, Goddess worship, the Perennial Philosophy, Interfaith, or the spiritual homosexual agenda.

As the ‘new’ spirituality converted its’ adherents it effected a spiritual counter-conversion of the soul, both individually and corporately, leading Newsweek to announce:

“We are all Hindus Now’ meaning that the Western soul has been profoundly and definitively altered—a change that spiritual observer, Philip Goldberg, in his book ‘American Veda’ compares to the Great Awakenings of the 18th century. (Dr. Peter Jones, Confronting Neo-Paganism in the Culture and the Church,truthexchange, Apr. 12, 2011)

When the counter-conversion reaches critical mass a spiritual transformation will occur. This means that the Spirit of God will have departed giving America over to another spirit.

Those whose souls have been converted do not realize as yet that they have stepped out into a downward spiraling vortex issuing into the outer-darkness of the void.


45 posted on 02/04/2012 10:13:39 AM PST by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish

I presume that you mean those who have converted to the new age kind of spiritism as opposed to actual Christianity.


46 posted on 02/04/2012 10:31:53 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: caww; Alamo-Girl; metmom
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof....

Good grief! Jessica Ahlquist appears to be the poster child for educational malfeasance. Or did she never have to take a course in American history, civics, the Constitution?

Whatever the case, it appears that she is either unaware of what the Constitution says about religion, or has been misled as to its meaning.

The First Amendment prohibits the government from establishing a state religion, AND prohibits it from interfering in the free exercise of religion by any American citizen. Congress doesn't have the authority to confine religious expression to the "private sphere" only. IT CAN MAKE NO LAW that interferes with or prohibits religious expression anywhere at all. The First Amendment is about RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. It does not specify freedom from religion; rather it guarantees freedom for religion and specifically religious speech and expression.

Plus I wonder: What is it about the School Prayer — other than the invocation of "Our Heavenly Father" — that is objectionable to Ms. Ahlquist?

I would say Ms. Ahlquist's school has utterly failed her. But then Americans for Separation of Church and State might say they've done their job very well indeed.

Anyhoot, I truly feel sorry for the kid. It's bad enough that she's been left in ignorance on such a vital question of our constitutional order; it's worse that she is being manipulated by some very sick people.

JMHO FWIW

Thanks so much for writing, dear CAWW — and for the link!

47 posted on 02/04/2012 10:47:49 AM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: metmom

Yes. To worship creation rather than the Creator of creation is to worship nothing, meaning that without God there is no source for self-—soul,spirit and and will. Thus to worship creation is for man to wittingly or unwittingly deny self.

There are those right here in FreeRepublic who deny their own souls. They have stepped out into the vortex. As C.S. Lewis said of the Conditioners, “They have stepped out into the void. They are no longer human.”


48 posted on 02/04/2012 11:20:19 AM PST by spirited irish
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To: betty boop; spirited irish; caww; metmom; WXRGina
Of course, our progressivist pedagogues nowadays — Bill Ayers comes to mind — create education programmes that are the total inversion of McGuffey. McGuffey is about educating free men and women. Ayers' project is about how to condition men to accept their chains....

Seems to me that is the consequence of the Department of Education, too - and the plummeting of the U.S. standing in education achievement is evidence.

A high school civics teacher of mine demonstrated socialism/communism by averaging all the grades in the class and giving each of us the same score. The achievers were outraged and the goof-offs were pleased but the whole class agreed there was no point in doing homework or working hard unless he canceled the program and removed the damage already done.

In sum, accepting that each student is chained to the class as a whole would result in failure, individually and collectively.

49 posted on 02/05/2012 8:34:18 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; spirited irish; caww; metmom; WXRGina
In sum, accepting that each student is chained to the class as a whole would result in failure, individually and collectively.

Indeed. As Screwtape approvingly put it:

The bright pupil thus remains democratically fettered to his own age group throughout his school career, and a boy who would be capable of tackling Aeschylus or Dante sits listening to his coeval's attempts to spell out A CAT SAT ON A MAT.

In a word, we may reasonably hope for the virtual abolition of education when I'm as good as you has fully had its way. The few who might want to learn will be prevented; who are they to overtop their fellows? And anyway the teachers — or should I say nurses? — will be far too busy reassuring the dunces and patting them on the back to waste any time on real teaching. We shall no longer have to plan and toil to spread imperturbable conceit and incurable ignorance among men. The little vermin themselves will do it for us.

Sigh.... the cultural rot already goes so very deep....
50 posted on 02/05/2012 9:58:57 AM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: logitech

Good conversation PING!


51 posted on 02/05/2012 1:31:06 PM PST by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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To: WXRGina; All

Great article. It’s a relief to know we’re not the only ones who think a certain way.


52 posted on 02/05/2012 1:54:49 PM PST by logitech
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To: betty boop
So very true, dearest sister in Christ!
53 posted on 02/05/2012 8:12:41 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: metmom

Any chance of you trying a ‘juice’ fast? Get lots of fruits and vegetables and put them in a juicer. Drink it in place of a meal once per day ~ more if your doctor approves.

Add small amounts of barely tolerable foods little by little.

I’ve just seen a video that shows the amazing results folks are attaining. And it has the biblical stamp of approval.

PS - I’ll be praying for your improved health metmom so let me know how it goes. I plan to buy a juicer and do the same.


54 posted on 02/06/2012 9:35:39 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: All; metmom

Here’s what I’m talking about...

This is the fun movie with an Australian guy.

90 min plus for the 1st one. The 2nd one explains the
same in under 10 minutes.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/289122/fat-sick-and-nearly-dead

This is the extended trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv3vEXy_EwU


55 posted on 02/06/2012 10:07:11 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: spirited irish; WXRGina; Alamo-Girl; Mind-numbed Robot; metmom; Matchett-PI; joanie-f
When the counter-conversion reaches critical mass a spiritual transformation will occur. This means that the Spirit of God will have departed giving America over to another spirit.

Well certainly that would be Satan's plan. But he is not stronger than Christ.... And so I do not believe this counter-conversion can achieve the critical mass necessary for a spiritual transformation essentially premised in a Lie, the sole purpose of which is to efface the Image of God in the world....

Dear sister in Christ, you deal with a lot of "dark" material, RE: the so-called "new spirituality" movements. Every one of them denies and rejects Christ.

And so, as far as I am concerned, they are "works" of the Great Deceiver, the Father of Lies.

I had an up-close-and-personal contact with Arcane School Theosophy a few decades back; which then progressed into contacts with Benjamin Creme's circle, which then as ever was trumpeting the imminent return of Maitreya, the "Christ," to earth.

Well, I survived all that; I came to my senses and departed from this mayhem. It was mayhem, because Creme's doctrine relentlessly marginalizes Jesus Christ, and places His Logos in some la-la land beyond human intelligibility — in a hierarchy of "hidden masters of the hierarchy" — a hierarchy fully in charge here on Earth, but also beyond our planet; beyond our solar system; beyond our galaxy; etc. What we end up with is a universe fully staffed at all levels by hierarchically-ordered "divine" administrators, who are administrating — WHAT???

That part is never articulated.

Oh, but the best thing of all is supposedly the highest ranking hierarch of all started as a poor miserable soul just like you!!! But he "spiritually trained" his soul; he had the requisite (infinite) number of "initiations." You can do this, too — if only you will try, and get yourself a guru to help you along your noble spiritual path!

It's the "all-about-meeeeeeeee" culture trying to find "spiritual meaning" without Spirit.

I am sure that Satan is very pleased when individual souls fall for this garbage.

The Holy Spirit led me out of this danger. The Light of Christ guided my path.

What really did it for me in the end was the increasingly obvious fact that most of the people I was then hanging out with were totally nutz. :^)

I just have to object to Philip Goldberg's association of this supposed "new spirituality" with the historical American "Great Awakenings." Two are of particular note: the Great Awakening of the early 18th century, which prepared the way for the American Revolution; and the Great Awakening of the 19th century, which prepared the way for the abolition of slavery. Both these Great Awakenings were about human liberty. And both culminated in bloody war.... (Final score: Christ 2, Satan 0.)

This so-called "new spirituality" has nothing to do with liberty. In effect, it holds out the promise of self-divination. One becomes enslaved to that idea.... And then seeks a "master" to guide one.

I guess this is the "ME Generation's" idea of "spirituality."

But don't let it get you down, dear sister in Christ! In your study of "darkness," do not allow yourself to be sucked into the dark undertow!

Live in Hope. Give all thanks and praise to God! Try to live in His Light and Grace and Love. Put full faith and trust in Him.

And then, leave the issue to Him.

At least, this is what I do.

In the end Satan doesn't have a chance. Do people want to go down with him?

Better I think to find a better Way....

Thank you ever so much, dear spirited irish, for your outstanding essay/post!

56 posted on 02/06/2012 12:01:33 PM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: BrandtMichaels
Any chance of you trying a ‘juice’ fast? Get lots of fruits and vegetables and put them in a juicer. Drink it in place of a meal once per day ~ more if your doctor approves. Add small amounts of barely tolerable foods little by little.

The problem is is that the vegetables and fruits ARE the barely tolerable ones. That's what I react to most - vegetables and then fruits.

Oats are about the only plant material I can tolerate in any quantities.

I can manage potatoes occasionally, along with a few cherries, blueberries, or some slices of apple (1/4 most).

The more I eat that stuff, the worse I react. So I have to rotate them through my diet.

They're finding out that foods can be treated with desensitization by drops but it's iffy. Some people do get worse that way.

My condition is MCAD, Mast Cell Activation Disorder. Not a true allergy as the reaction is not triggered by the usual allergic IgE pathway. Something else is triggering the mast cell activity and nobody knows what that is.

I don't test allergic to much of any foods, but simply cannot eat them without paying. It's very low risk for anaphylactic shock, fortunately, but when you feel like you' re going to die from something you ate, that's small consolation.

Thanks for your prayers and concern. I'll take a look at the videos and see if there's anything I might be able to use out of them.

57 posted on 02/06/2012 12:06:18 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: betty boop; spirited irish; WXRGina; Alamo-Girl; Mind-numbed Robot; metmom
"I do not believe this counter-conversion can achieve the critical mass necessary for a spiritual transformation essentially premised in a Lie, the sole purpose of which is to efface the Image of God in the world....... you deal with a lot of "dark" material, RE: the so-called "new spirituality" movements..."

Applause! bttt

"....there can be a fine line between destiny and fate. Only destiny is within the realm of providence, whereas fate implies its opposite.

"Now, a universe of pure providence would be indistinguishable from a universe of pure fate, and therefore, devoid of destiny. Under a system of pure providence, only the whole system has a destiny, which is no destiny at all. This is a monist metaphysic that Obliterates the value of the unique individual.

"In a materialistic context, hard determinism reduces one to a plaything of genes, physics, and chemistry, while in a Christian context, predestination reduces one to a pray thing of God. And in an Eastern context, one is just a preything of maya. But the whole point of traditional Christian metaphysics is that time is both real and irreversible, so that true and eternally valuable novelty occurs within it.

"For this reason," as Bolton explains, "supposedly spiritual teachings for which the total system is the only real agent [i.e., monism] are only disguised expressions of Fate," and fate is not providence, let alone destiny. Predestination explains precisely nothing, but unexplains everything of concern to us. ...."

HERE

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"....freedom is a function of truth, and vice versa. If truth does not exist -- or, if man cannot know it -- then freedom is strictly impossible and even inconceivable.

"Conversely, because man was made to know truth, he is created to be free; or, in an even higher sense, he is created to create, which combines the most felicitous union of truth and freedom with their fair sister beauty. For the superior man, nothing should be done artlessly.

"This is not a principle that should be passed over lightly, for it is one of the keys to this whole existentialiada with free holiness on the side. For it entails its corollary: that those who embrace the Lie are not -- and cannot be -- free. Lies can only ape a facsimian of freedom, for freedom is obviously not free if it is oriented toward error.

"If you spend your life in subjugation to the Lie, you will have wasted the uppertunity of a lifetome, for you will have lived as an illiterate slave. Might as well not have been born, except at least your bad example can serve as a tutelary tale and cautionary tool for those who are tempted to believe that truth is relative or a mere cultural construct. ...

"....freedom "is a possibility which develops out of an originally unfree state" (Bolton). And unless the reality of freedom is emphasized from the outset, "most human beings will not bother to develop their natural capacities to the full" (ibid.), as we see in the Islamic world. Since they believe everything is fated by Allah, why bother trying to improve oneself?

"The same spiritual illness afflicts the left, in that their principle lie is that human beings are mere objects who react in a deterministic way to the environment around them.

"This leads logically to their theory of government, which posits a large and intrusive state to manipulate people toward its preferred ends. Of course, they never explain how the elites who determine the preferred ends are able to escape the chain of epistemological causation and freely perceive a reality unconditioned by their class-based "false consciousness."

"You don't even have to believe in free will in order to know it is real. Bolton uses the example of two people, one of whom believes in free will, the other of whom does not. As a consequence of believing in it, the person will conduct himself quite differently than the one who does not. ...."

HERE

58 posted on 02/06/2012 1:26:18 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Matchett-PI; Alamo-Girl; spirited irish; metmom; xzins
... those who embrace the Lie are not — and cannot be — free. Lies can only ape a facsimian of freedom, for freedom is obviously not free if it is oriented toward error.

If you spend your life in subjugation to the Lie, you will have wasted the uppertunity of a lifetome, for you will have lived as an illiterate slave. Might as well not have been born, except at least your bad example can serve as a tutelary tale and cautionary tool for those who are tempted to believe that truth is relative or a mere cultural construct. ...

Oh my oh my oh my — Gagdad Bob at his ineffable best! Although one does have to work through his astonishing neologisms — e.g., "uppertunity," "lifetome," "existentialiada"; "facsimian"; and so forth.

And yet all one needs is one's own experience and a free imagination to work through such "semantic difficulties." That's the beauty of Gagdad Bob, IMHO.

I read his blog, One Cosmos, virtually every day. I have been analyzing the "work product" there both for content and method.

As to method, on my analysis [FWIW] Gagdad Bob [clinical psychologist Dr. Robert Godwin] can be characterized as follows:

(1) He never tells you "what to think."

(2) He only shows you "where to look."

(3) He really does hope you will "go look"; and maybe get back to him later....

All of which qualifications indicate to me that Gagdad Bob/Robert Godwin is Platonist in basic view....

Great post, dear Matchett-PI! Thank you so very much!

59 posted on 02/06/2012 2:43:47 PM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

You’re welcome! I like your analysis, too. :)

He’s no “guru”, and rejects the opinions of those who insist he is.

The content of his blog is merely an “offering”. If you don’t want it, it doesn’t bother him in the least. “Take it or leave it!”

We are just peering over his shoulder to see what interesting things he might be saying or doing ‘today’. :)

bttt


60 posted on 02/06/2012 3:32:23 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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